Can a Christian Commit Suicide?

This controversial topic has unfortunately often been addressed in emotional ways, not through biblical analysis. Those of us who grew up Roman Catholic have always heard suicide is a mortal sin that irretrievably sends people to hell. Influenced by the arguments of Augustine and Aquinas, this belief dominated through the Reformation. However, for Luther, the Devil is capable of oppressing (not possessing) a believer to the point of pushing him to commit the sin of suicide (Table Talk, Vol 54:29). As the salvation became better understood, many Reformation thinkers and theologians distanced their views from the Church of Rome.

Besides this traditional position of the Catholic Church, we encounter three others:

a) A true Christian would never commit suicide, since God wouldn’t allow it.

b) A Christian may commit suicide, but would lose his salvation.

c) A Christian may commit suicide without losing his salvation.

So what does the Bible say?

TGC Nunez

Let’s begin by talking about those truths we know as revealed in God’s Word:

  • Humanity is totally depraved (Isa. 64:6; Rom. 3:10-18). This doesn’t mean we’re as evil as we could be, but that every human capacity—intellect, heart, emotions, will—is tainted by sin.
  • Even after regeneration, a Christian is capable of committing any sin except the unforgivable one (Rom. 7).
  • The unforgivable sin is mentioned in Mark 3:25-32 and Matthew 12:32-32, and from these passages we can conclude it refers to the continual rejection of the Holy Spirit in the work of conversion. Others believe this passage speaks of attributing to Satan the work of the Spirit. It’s clear that in any case it’s referring to an unbeliever.
  • It’s important to remember a believer is capable of taking the life of someone else, as David did in the case of Uriah, without this action invalidating his salvation.
  • Christ’s sacrifice at the cross has forgiven all of our sin—past, present, and future (Col. 2:13-14; Heb. 10:11-18).
  • The sin a Christian will commit tomorrow was forgiven at Calvary—where Jesus justified us, declaring us positionally righteous. He accomplished this work through one single offering that didn’t need to be repeated again. On the cross Jesus didn’t make us justifiable; he made us justified (Rom. 3:23-26; 8:29-30).

Salvation and the Act of Suicide

One of the classic differences between Arminianism and Calvinism concerns the doctrine of salvation and perseverance of the saints. Many Arminians believe suicide offers evidence that a Christian has lost his salvation. Those who affirm the eternal security of believers, however, believe that neither suicide (nor any other sin) can negate the salvation Jesus won for us.

Within these two Christian camps, some contend a true believer would never commit suicide. But this position lacks biblical support. Granted, some point out that Scripture contains no instance of a believer committing suicide, while it includes many cases of unbelievers doing so. But this is an argument from silence. Scripture doesn’t explicitly mention many things in life. Moreover, some hold suicide robs a Christian of her salvation because it doesn’t provide an opportunity for repentance. But if you were to die right now, would there be any unconfessed sin in your life? Of course there would.

The sacrifice that covers the sins remaining until death is the same one that would cover a sin like suicide. God’s Word is clear: “For I am sure that neither death nor life, nor angels nor rulers, nor things present nor things to come, nor powers, nor height nor depth, nor anything else in all creation, will be able to separate us from the love of God in Christ Jesus our Lord” (Rom. 8:38-39). Friends, “anything else in creation” includes the believer, and “things present nor things to come” refers to situations not yet experienced. Jesus himself says no one can snatch us away from our Father (John 10:27-29), and Paul says, “[the God] who began a good work in you will bring it to completion at the day of Jesus Christ” (Phil. 1:6).

So, to summarize:

  • If we’ve established a Christian is capable of committing any sin, why can’t we conceive one could ever commit the sin of suicide?
  • If we believe Jesus’ blood is capable of forgiving any sin, wouldn’t his blood cover this other one also?
  • If Jesus’ sacrifice has made believers perfect forever (Heb. 7:28-10:14), could any sin remove their salvation?
  • If someone like Moses (and Job, and Elijah, and Jeremiah) came to a point where he wished God would take his life, couldn’t a believer with schizophrenia or extreme depression, who lacks Moses’ strength of character, make this wish a reality?
  • On the basis of Scripture, history, and the experience of God’s people—as well as the indwelling Spirit and the means of grace in the church—it’s nonetheless likely that suicides are rare for genuine believers.
  • Suicide is a serious offense against God, as it represents arrogant violation of the gift of life the Creator has given. But if a genuine believer is theoretically capable of taking another’s life, why is it impossible to conceive he could ever take his own?

As you can see, the subject of suicide and salvation is no simple matter. Biblically informed wisdom and careful theological reasoning are therefore essential whenever we encounter something not explicitly addressed in Scripture. Our chief focus should be on that about which God has said much (salvation), not on that about which he’s said little (suicide).

  • Curt Day

    What forgivable sin can a Christian not commit? Suicide is only an indicator of a person’s spiritual state, it implies nothing. But what is written here is right, suicide is a “serious” sin. And what we need to do is to listen to people who have considered committing suicide to understand what is it that they are dealing with. This is because for some, even when it is not a serious consideration at the time, suicide remains in the back of the mind.

  • Paula Grant

    I know many don’t think King Saul was a believer. I think the working of God in his heart in the early years of his life would indicate that he probably was; therefore, In my mind he would be an example of a believer who fell prey to this sin.

    • Mark Tubbs

      Paula, you make a valid point. However, a compelling case can be made that Old Testament figures experienced the Holy Spirit’s work in/on them in a different way than we do. James Hamilton Jr., among others, argues in his book God’s Indwelling Presence that the Holy Spirit acted on Saul in his God-ordained role as king (and prophet, albeit briefly).

  • D. McDonald

    Very wise and well written. Mr. Nunez, your article demonstrates that the issue in this “debate” is not about finding loop holes for Christians to get into heaven, as I have been accused of doing before with people I’ve had this discussion with. The issue is understanding the reality of a situation so that I can better minister to those in Christ who deal with things such as depression, and who may often/once in a while contemplate taking their own lives. Some people, because of chemical imbalances for example, simply do not always have the capability to see things as clearly as others all the time. Why would we cast them in to hell (if that were possible) for having a mental illness? Granted, not all people who are diagnosed with mental illness actually have a mental illness, but the ones that do and that are struggling with these sad thoughts need our help, not our condemnation. Too often people with suicidal help have had nowhere to turn because they know that if they approach people with this inner turmoil, that they will be told to just pray harder, try harder, and not to “sweat the small stuff.” Sadly, that’s not how things work for people with depression.

    • D. McDonald

      In my second to last sentence, I meant “suicidal thoughts,” not “suicidal help.”

    • Rick

      I also thought the article was really well written. McDonald, Your last two sentences are very important for people who want to minister to those who are depressed.

      If you were to tell someone who is depressed to just pray harder, they will likely not take you seriously, or worse they will even less capable. As a Christian who has battled this for two decades, I can attest that it’s hard for a depressed person to feel understood. The best thing one can do to minister to those who are depressed is to offer unconditional love towards them, even if you can’t understand.

  • Matt Fretwell

    I’ve been asked this question a lot. The only mention in the Bible of a specific suicide in which God gave strength to perform the act, is with Samson. It’s an unusual episode of Scripture, where he fell prey to sin and lost not only his identity in being God’s servant, but was taken captive by the enemy (many spiritual lessons there!). Why would God allow Samson to kill himself? That’s speculation at best, but I agree with this article, all sin was forgiven at the cross, for the believer (past, present, and future), but the question remains, what about sins of commission?

  • Gavin

    A consideration is the mental state of the person considering and carrying out the action of taking their own life. To get to a point where life is so hopeless and taking your own life is deemed to be the only answer means,I feel, that in their thinking a normally irrational behaviour has become rational. It could be said that in this moment they are not behaving from a sound healthy mind – they are ill. I do not believe that God considers this kind of illness to be a sin – although He may want to ask why they were unable to throw themselves upon His care and strength in a moment of real darkness. But I don’t think He would judge their action as sin, as others see it.

    • Robbie Mackenzie

      Agreed Gavin. I know of a person in my wife’s extended family who committed suicide because of some medication that gave him these types of thoughts.

      • Karen Butler

        And that’s why many psychiatrists are admitting that the medical model of treating mental illness is a failed experiment. They are calling for a paradigm shift.

        Professor Mulder of New Zealand, who studies suicide prevention, spoke at a conference marking World Suicide Prevention Day and presented the evidence that traditional psychiatric models of suicide prediction and prevention are not working,

        “psychiatrists are acting in their own rather than their patients’ best interests, that the risks of antidepressants outweigh any benefits and that very few psychiatric interventions have been shown to reduce the incidence of suicide.”

        In relation to suicide risk assessment, Professor Mulder told the conference participants that psychiatrists are very poor at predicting suicide risk. He described current suicide risk assessment as “an organisational attempt to tame clinician anxiety rather than improve patient care” and admitted that “patients may be detained to reduce staff anxiety rather than for their treatment needs.” What a brave clinician! You can read more about it, here:

        • Karen Butler

          There was some criticism of citing “one guy in New Zealand” as an authority. Does research conducted by the US Army, which faces suicide rates double the civilian population, hold any weight? I believe Mulder was citing this paper published by the Borden Institute at Walter Reed Hospital, in particular.

          Summarized here

          Clinicians found that “the known risk factors do not provide clinicians with sufficient information to predict suicide.” As a result, hospitals are committing numerous “false positive” errors, and “well-intentioned interventions are surely targeting many for whom the intervention is not needed.”

          The study lists some of the adverse effects of intrusive interventions: violation of confidentiality, harm to the therapeutic relationship, increased stigma, treatment dropout, and avoidance of “forthright conversations about suicidal ideation in the future.”

          Suicidality is not a disease! It is a loss of hope. Those who work at suicide hotlines have found that desperate individuals need compassionate care, and the key to helping them is to listen, acknowledge and help them find some small thing they could immediately do to recover some measure of control over the situation they find so unbearable. Forced treatment is antithetical to these goals — as the US Army has acknowledged — and is in itself traumatizing.

  • scott

    This is an extremely hard subject. For me probably one of the hardest, especially for a pastor. What is he to say to his congregation concerning this matter? What does he say if someone in his congregation has experienced this?

    You must know what you believe and why you believe it before you can truly help others and it must be based on scripture alone. This is still hard however. What if you’re wrong?

    In telling people a Christian can commit this sin it could lead some to actually commit it. To tell people a Christian cannot commit this sin you are inadvertently telling family members that their family member is probably in Hell. I must admit the middle ground does sound appealing. It would go something like this.

    You comfort those who may have a family member who has committed suicide by informing them this is possible for a Christian to commit and at the same time warn others who may be contemplating suicide that this is a sin against God but also how much it would hurt those left here.

    I would conclude by saying we should never let our feelings for others or thoughts of what others may feel if I hold to a certain truth from scripture, dictate what we should believe. God’s word should have final authority and we can trust it to comfort and heal in every situation in this life.

    • scott

      It truly is in my opinion the ultimate selfish act.

      • LG

        This is one of the most often-repeated and frustrating tropes about suicide. What purpose does it serve to say to a person who, in a moment of utter despair, attempted suicide, “That was the ultimate selfish act.”?? Of course mental illness makes a person self-focused; nothing could be more obvious. But “the ultimate selfish act”? Come on. I act selfishly every day. I have often hurt people I love, ignored the needs of others, put my own petty desires above their own. Who am I to condemn a person — whose actions are driven by a kind of deep, profound, seemingly inescapable pain that makes them want to end their very existence! — as “more selfish” than I, simply because their burdens are greater than mine?

        THAT is incredibly selfish, in my opinion — to paint someone else’s sin as the pinnacle of selfishness, rather than beating my own breast and pleading with the Lord to have mercy upon ME, the chief of sinners.

        • Marie Scott

          Agreed LG. We have to view suicide as the ultimate pain, not the ultimate selfish act. My concern is the rate with which suicide occurs today among believers and non-believers alike. Certainly we need to see with Jesus’ eyes and heart because we don’t know who might be hurting this deeply.

        • Vic

          Suicide is cowardice, it is the most selfish act a person can commit. It is unfortunate that a person allows their thought processes to lead them to that conclusion, but I feel no sympathy for them. Rather, I feel sympathy for the wife, kids, mother, father, whomever they have left behind, I feel sympathy for the people they abandoned. A person that commits suicide has reached a point where they are completely destitute of hope, which is a contradiction to the Christian life because we have an everlasting hope even in the darkest of hours. Jesus said that there is no greater love than for someone to give up their life for a friend. To kill yourself is to take your own life out of contempt for yourself. It is an action that results in you abandoning your family and friends, and neglecting your responsibilities. Ultimately you are saying to God that not only do you reject his power and promise to see us through all trials and struggles, and that we should rejoice in our suffering, but you are also saying to him that you do not value in the least bit the life he has granted you. You are taking your fate into your own hands, and rejecting the sovereignty of God. This is not to say that I believe persons who commit suicide are going to hell or that Christians can’t commit suicide but I will say that it seriously calls into question the sincerity of a person’s faith. Not that I am judging a person’s salvation, but it would cause me to examine their life and mine. I had often contemplated suicide prior to being saved.

          • Vic

            I say “cowardice” because the person has allowed the pressures and trials of life and circumstances push them to a point where they have given up and decided to abandon all hope, and all those who care for them and who they care for. This person out of not being able to cope with their own hurt and pain check’s out while at the same time causing their loved ones the same hurt and pain that they felt.

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  • Paul Ellsworth

    If we believe in grace, we had better believe that grace covers all of our sins.
    If there’s a particular sin (short of, say, blasphemy of the Holy Spirit, as Christ mentions, but that seems to be a very particular thing…) we simply cannot do and still be saved, then what are we really saying about grace and the cross? That it just couldn’t *quite* pay for that sin?
    It seems to me that you have to deny the power of the cross to say that you can’t be saved and commit suicide.
    The argument that such grace would cause people to think it’s okay is what Paul dealt with – shall we sin more than grace may abound? Of course not, that’s ridiculous. But that doesn’t mean that grace is not that amazingly powerful and free. If it is free *unless* you do this or that, then we begin to add works. (In order to get to God, you must trust in Jesus Christ … oh, and not commit suicide)
    My default position is that, as one who trusts in the blood of Christ for my justification and *nothing else*, Jesus Christ paid completely for my sins. Unless there’s biblical reason to believe that a particular sin *isn’t* covered or that specific repentance for every single sin ever committed is necessary (so much for pretty much all the conversion stories in the NT if that’s the case)… then the question really ends up being, could a Christian actually commit *that* sin. Is there any biblical evidence that a Christian actually could not? I don’t think so. Sure, we may end up questioning their salvation, but saying they can NOT be a Christian sounds highly presumptuous to me. :)

    • MichaelA

      Thank you Paul, very good point. Yes, suicide is sin, as are many other things, but God’s grace is large enough to cover all of them.

  • Jennifer S

    I really appreciate this discussion and thank you for sharing your thoughts. I have a concern though about one part. You wrote, “If someone like Moses (and Job, and Elijah, and Jeremiah) came to a point where he wished God would take his life, couldn’t a believer with schizophrenia or extreme depression, who lacks Moses’ strength of character, make this wish a reality?”

    I believe this implies that mental illness is a character issue. The brain research is well-established that this is not the case. Chemical imbalances can lead someone in extreme depression to commit suicide, even if they normally have a very strong faith.

    It is very difficult to overcome brain chemistry and I do not think it serves the conversation at all to insinuate that following through on suicidal ideations is a character weakness when it might realistically be a symptom of chemical imbalance.

    • Karen Butler

      The pastors at Cripplegate detail how the chemical imbalance theory is regarded now as a myth, here:

      ” One after another, the experts grant that there is no real evidence linking depression to low serotonin. Amazingly, they justify the propagation of the “low serotonin story” simply because it is easy to understand. In other words, it doesn’t have to be true to be helpful…”

      The good effects of antidepressants mentioned in that Cripplegate article don’t have to be true to be helpful, given how the placebo effect works. Here is a review of a 60 Minutes program detailing the work of Irving Kirsch, who did research fifteen years ago proving that antidepressants perform no better than placebos.

      • Karen Butler

        Another commenter pointed out how this “appeal to authority” failed.

        The information is from current research cited by an NPR reporter, but many will discount them as a source of information so I framed it coming from a pastor, who many will trust.

        In these bewildering days of multibillion dollar lawsuits by psychiatric survivors against Big Pharma giants like Johnson and Johnson,I like the website “Mad in America” cited above, run by the well respected journalist Robert Whitakker. It is a wonderful clearinghouse for information and support. Although MIA has a clear point of view critical of the current paradigm in psychiatry, many psychiatrists are writing for the site, they write for laypeople, and they always link to the actual research.

  • Steve

    Agreed this is a hard topic and one that is best to take our collective emotions and put them on the sidelines.

    God is the author of Salvation; his sovereign act to first change the heart of stone to a heart of flesh, is what starts the new birth. If someone is really a believer, it is because of God’s sovereign work to change the soil (heart) condition.

    People die everyday. Many people die everyday and go to Hell. Worse, many people who thought they were saved die everyday, yet Jesus tells us they are not (Matt 7:15-23). Very difficult truth, but the truth nonetheless; God’s in charge of Salvation.

    Taking the sadness / emotion out of suicide is very hard. Every person who is born will die; suicide is one possibility of cause of death. If a person chooses to commit suicide, another difficult truth is that in God’s providence he knew it would occur and permitted it to occur.

    God permits trials to test our faith and we suffer just as Jesus and Saints before us suffered; that is the life of a Christian.

    A more substantive question is not a person’s medical condition (i.e.; mental illness), but was the person truly Saved?

    We are the Church and in the next life we have responsibilities to judge the angels. We discern daily in this life and we judge within the Church. Take the emotions out of it and discern if there was evidence that this person was born again. Nowhere in the bible is Salvation without transformation? Was this person a Psalm 1 tree planted near a living water and producing fruit?

    God knows who will be in Heaven and when we get there we are not going to be concerned with those who are in Hell. Part of our Sanctification as believers is ‘telos’ (maturing), so use the Word and discern if a person was truly possessing saving faith.

    We trust God providentially acts and is in control of all things; including Salvation. Until our time here is finished, our command is to Love God and Love people. Suicide is inexpressible in its wrongness and sadness. Let us be obedient by Loving those considering suicide and Love those who are in the wake of suicide. God’s name goes forth.

  • MF

    Jennifer S.–I appreciate what you say about mental illness and character, and I think you are right on. HOWEVER, I don’t think the author meant to imply mental illness is a SIGN of weak character. Rather, that like everyone, some people who suffer from mental illness have a greater strength of character than others, and it is these people who often are able to deny themselves the urge to end their lives. I don’t think he meant to imply that chemical imbalance is a sign of weak character, just that there are those who can overcome that urge and those who cannot.

  • Steve Cornelll

    This is a helpful brief overview of a heart wrenching issue for many loved ones left behind. My first funeral to conduct as a young pastor was for the former pastor’s son who had taken his life. I reflected on that experience in a recent post when Rick Warren’s son committed suicide (

  • Gabe C

    Good article, but would be nice if you explored the “sin that leads to death” in 1 John 5. That passage is a big part of the debate as well.

  • Jerrod

    What about 1 Cor. 3:17?

    • D. McDonald

      Hi Jerrod, “‘You’ (pl) are God’s temple” is referring to the church, where the context seems to be the corruption/destruction of the church body, not the individual parts (an emphasis on the church is a prominent theme of the entire letter). I know that the body is made up of individuals, but the context of 3:17 is about the arrogance and divisions that plague the Corinthian church, not suicide. The other thing is that later in chapter 5, Paul talks about handing an incestuous man over to Satan for the destruction of the flesh (5:5). Although I am not claiming these two verses should necessarily be read together, I simply point 5:5 out to show that “destruction” language doesn’t always necessarily mean that God abandons a person or sends him or her to hell because of a particular sin. In 5:5, the goal of the “destruction” is in hopes that the man will be saved in the day of the Lord (it’s remedial). There are other parallels too between ch 3 and ch 5–Paul speaks to them as those of the “flesh” (3:1).

      When we look at the biblical witness as a whole, considering what Jesus’ death and resurrection accomplished in our lives, it is hard to believe there is a particular sin that is not within saving work (except for the blasphemy of the Holy Spirit of course).

      • jin

        what about Romans 12:1?

        What about 1 Corinthians 6:20?

        • D. McDonald


          These verses talk about presenting our bodies as living sacrifices (Rom 12:1) and glorifying God in our bodies (1 Cor 6:20). They both exemplify how God desires for us to walk/live in “our bodies.” These verses also imply that there are countless ways to fulfill both of these verses, even though the context in 1 Cor 6, for example, is about sexual immorality.

          We know, however, that even though Paul charges us to walk in these ways, the reality is that we don’t always do so–we mess up. So the question is, why do we believe that only suicide is something that was never paid for on the cross? I don’t think biblically we can justify that position. For the sake of not repeating was stated very clearly and very well, I ask you to read Mr. Nunez’s summary at the end of his article again, as well as Paul Ellsworth’s post above (just a few comments up from this one). They both demonstrate that even though a person committing suicide is not something that God takes pleasure in, it is very doubtful that believers who do so will be separated from Jesus for eternity.

          The other point I will make is that just because Paul and others biblical writers call upon us to walk in a certain way (e.g. Rom 12:1; 1 Cor 6:20), it does not negate the fact that there are some people who simply do not think in an “optimal way” when it comes to making ethical choices. The problem with something like clinical depression, which is a mental illness, is that people who suffer from it have chemical imbalances that sometimes prevent them from thinking clearly. Why would God send them to hell for having a sick mind when he doesn’t send others to hell for having a sick body (which the brain is a part of btw)? We don’t think this way when it comes to other mental illnesses, but usually only with depression because we think that the “sad” person should just snap out of it if they are truly a Christian. It is not that simple for someone struggling with this disease.

          A greater sin is when people who don’t understand mental illness, and have no idea what it is like to suffer from it, judge people who do, and they talk about them as selfish, unspiritual, etc. (I am not presuming you do this). I say too them, if they have never been selfish and unspiritual, then fine. I will let them throw first stone at those with mental illness.

          • jin

            D. McDonald,

            Thank you for your reply and explanation. I totally agree with you about people with mental illness. I am sure that God will judge them accordingly for He knows all. However, I am talking about WILLFUL sinning. Because the Bible tells us that WILLFUL and deliberate sinning is the sin that separates us from God.

            I have no doubt that Jesus has and is willing to forgive every and all sin. However, there is one little requirement that people seem to forget to mention. People tend to overlook that fact that ALL sin is forgiven IF AND ONLY IF it is repented of. Without repentance, sins can not be forgiven. This is why the gospel starts out with John, the Baptist, pleading for repentance. This is the reason for baptism and for being re-born.

            With people who commit willful suicide, it is plain to see that they will no longer have any chance to repent. And it is noteworthy to understand that just as Jesus had magnified the law, I submit to you that seriously contemplating suicide without the very act of suicide is sin in nature also.

            Although context is very important, we can surmise from those three verses that our bodies which were made in the image of our Lord, is a temple. It is the very temple where we invite Jesus to abide in our hearts. If you are a Christian, then you are housing Jesus in your heart and body making your body holy (due to His presence). This makes your physical body a true temple. Isn’t this the reason why smoking is considered a sin? When you willfully destroy the body temple through suicide then you have committed a sin. Unfortunately, it is a sin where the results leave you with no chance for repentance.

            • D. McDonald

              Hi Jin,

              Thanks for your response. If suicide is beyond the reach of the cross, my question is, how would you explain the following scenario where the person did not have the chance to repent, if as you appear to be saying, this is the all-important matter—to leave no act unrepented before we die. What if while I was driving in my car, I was sinfully fighting with my wife, and then I became so distracted during this fight that I crashed the car into a utility pole, killing both of us? Would I, a Christian, now be sent to hell because the last thing I did was a sin for which I did not have time to repent? How is it different for a genuine believer who commits suicide? Before someone says that’s different because people can willfully stop having suicidal thoughts, I will give you an example of my own life that might help understand where I am coming from with this.

              I would surmise (I don’t have facts or statistics, nor do I think there could ever be accurate ones), but for many Christians who are considering suicide, there is likely something going on other than simply willful disobedience. I have suffered from depression and anxiety my whole life, and even though this did not always accompany suicidal thoughts, for much of my earlier walk with Christ, it was a struggle because no matter how hard I tried (which “our effort” isn’t really the hallmark of our faith as we know anyway), I could never get rid of these feelings. Most of the time I hid my feelings from others because I knew they wouldn’t understand. When I did open up, I was told to pray harder, to spend more time in the Bible, and to really believe and hope in Jesus more, among many other suggestions for my perceived failings as a Christian. If I did those things, I was told, I would no longer have this sadness. The problem was that these feelings remained, and because of them, I always felt as though there was something wrong with me. As a result, I often doubted whether I was truly a Christian. I recognize the place of examining ourselves to see if we are really in the faith (2 Cor 13:5), but I lived overwhelmed with self-condemnation, guilt, shame, etc. because I was told that I didn’t measure up as a Christian, whether explicitly or implicitly from others. In my heart though, I wanted to “feel” great like all the other spiritual Christians around me, who seemed to me at least, like they had it all together.

              Needless to say, I spent much of my Christian life robbed of joy, which seems to be a contradiction coming from someone like me who has chronic depression. I still experience anxiety and depression, but I can now say that even though I have these feelings of depression (not all the time), I can still experience the joy of the Lord. The reason is because my joy, faith, trust, etc. rest in Jesus, and not in me and my outer circumstances, which includes the neurological processes that occur in my brain. I know some people may disagree with me, but I compare my illness to Paul’s thorn in his side. As did Paul, I have also learned to be content in God’s grace even though this “thorn” persist in my life. I have asked and asked God not to feel this way, but he has answered me in a different way than what I expected to happen when I prayed to him about this. I know one thing for certain though: I no longer worry that I don’t always feel “happy” life everyone else around me to experience God’s grace.

              I know it is possible to say, “Okay granted, people with ‘mental illness’ can have suicidal thoughts and ‘get away with it,’ but what about those who don’t suffer from depressions?” I compare it to Christians who have physical illnesses—say cancer—where they experience despair and anxiety for a season (it has not been their whole lives) as a result of their sickness. We don’t usually condemn them for having despair and doubt in this stressful time. We don’t doubt their salvation simply because they struggle to have it all together all the time. It is the same with Christians who have depression, who at some point, may not be able to support themselves, even though they know there is peace for those in Christ. At that a given moment, however, that truth seems out of their grasp no matter how much they trust that it is true.

              Furthermore, sometimes people’s suicidal thoughts are not just the selfish “I want to end it now because I don’t care about obeying God anymore” thoughts many of us presume they are. As a Christian, I recognize that I am a husband and a father, and with these roles come God-given responsibilities. I also recognize that God has called me to a particular task for his kingdom, and I want to serve him in that capacity. Sometimes though, for me, in the past I have experienced a desire to rid of the overwhelming feelings inside me, for which I didn’t really want to kill myself, but simply just didn’t want to exist anymore. In some of those darkest moments, I know I was not thinking clearly, but in these moments of weakness, these suicidal thoughts were there staring me in the face, and on occasion I was very close to ending it all.

              My point: I say all this not because I want all Christians to embrace the notion that suicide is acceptable. But my concern is that Christians with suicidal thoughts, and those who have actually acted upon them, are not judged as the spawn of Satan. Instead, I hope they are given the support and encouragement from the body of Christ that any other Christian deserves, including family members and friends who may have lost someone in this way. It is easy to sit back and have these theological debates where we can say this and that for certain, but we need to reserve judgment on matters that we don’t understand ourselves. It is very easy to look at another Christian’s life and quickly give our verdict on what is really going on inside them (regardless of whether they have a mental illness or not). More importantly, the emphasis of the Bible is the saving work of Jesus Christ which covers all sins.

              I’m sorry for the long post. Thank you for time.

            • EricP

              Excellent points, D. McDonald.

              “But my concern is that Christians with suicidal thoughts, and those who have actually acted upon them, are not judged as the spawn of Satan. Instead, I hope they are given the support and encouragement from the body of Christ that any other Christian deserves, including family members and friends who may have lost someone in this way. It is easy to sit back and have these theological debates where we can say this and that for certain, but we need to reserve judgment on matters that we don’t understand ourselves.”


  • Brad Vigus

    Thanks for a good and helpful article, which is thoughtful and theological. On the more pastoral side, I’m Glad that the bible includes those Psalms and Laments that cry out deeply to God like Ps88 (I am overwhelmed with troubles and my life draws near to death).
    And it is worth noting we struggle to know our own mind let alone the mind of another, so: 1. So pastorally it may be better to not quickly label suicide as a sin and think rather (& talk) in terms of a ‘loss of reality leading to a tragic mistake’. And 2. also along those lines suicide may have been mistakenly chosen as a means of drawing closer to God.

  • Jennifer

    Kudos to you for the careful handling of a very difficult topic. Bryan Chappell’s sermon on the subject (I believe you can find it in the book “The Hardest Sermons You’ll Ever Have to Preach”) is also extremely helpful, wise and pastorally gentle- I’d commend it to the reading of anyone who wants to further study/help.

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  • EricP

    “Suicide is a serious offense against God”

    This statement assumes the person is mentally healthy and able to make moral decisions. By definition, suicide is a sign of mental illness.

    Second, is the statement helpful? “mental illness is a sin” thinking prevents people being open about their problems and having the church help them. The worst thing you can do with someone suffering with severe depression is isolate them.

    • Karen Butler

      “The worst thing you can do with someone suffering with severe depression is isolate them.”

      I agree! But I think that giving someone a hopesucking label like “brain diseased” is stigmatizing offers no hope for recovery, and so it is much more harmful. Indeed, 60% of those given the diagnoses of schizophrenia commit suicide within six months of diagnoses.

      When I was a suicidal from post-partum depression,including psychosis, I still could make a moral decision not to hide my struggle, and it was the heroic hospitality of my best friend in response that saved my life. God told her I needed rest, and so she took all my five kids to stay with her, save the newborn, and so I got the bedrest and reflective time I needed. She interceded for me. I also journalled and prayed, and God delivered me.

      She did this ministry to me at great cost to herself, as she was grieving the loss of her own stillborn son, just three months earlier.

      I think hospitality, this kind of selfless service, to those who are lonely, to those suffering mental disorder, are the *real* single biggest thing the church can do to reduce the suicide rate.

      Because, like you said, John, sometimes it is this feeling that we are cut off from the body that is at the heart of our pain, so those who struggle with these issues must war against that feeling, and do what seems counter-intuitive: Seek out fellowship. Stop avoiding and hiding from people. Open up, and be transparent, and share the truth about your struggle. It was not till I called my friend, and told her the truth about my suicidal thoughts, that there was finally relief from their demonic torments.

      • Karen Butler

        “Indeed, 60% of those given the diagnoses of schizophrenia commit suicide within six months of diagnoses.”

        I bungled that one! I was tired. I meant to say that the risk of suicide is greatest after first diagnoses, according to this study, “Risk is higher following acute psychotic episodes and during the first 6 months after hospitalization. Major depression and substance abuse may be related to suicide attempts in schizophrenia…More than 80% (N=43) of first suicide attempts occurred after the onset of psychosis and within the first 5 years of illness, suggesting that the risk for suicidal behavior is higher after the onset of schizophrenia.” from

        We have to do better than these kinds of “treatments” for those suffering their first psychotic episode or depression, than handing them a bottle of pills and a devastating label of a defective mind with no possibility of recovery, like that of Master Chef Joshua Marks, who was slapped with the schizophrenic label and discharged from a hospital and the next day he committed suicide. “That’s not what I am!” he exclaimed after the psychiatrist “diagnosed” him.

        This therapist and suicide survivor outlines a new paradigm, that begins with *listening* and not being afraid:

        “When we begin to listen we also discover something very surprising. Suicidal feelings are not the same as giving up on life. Suicidal feelings often express a powerful and overwhelming need for a different life. Suicidal feelings can mean, in a desperate and unyielding way, a demand for something new. Listen to someone who is suicidal and you often hear a need for change so important, so indispensable, that they would rather die than go on living without the change. And when the person feels powerless to make that change happen, they become suicidal.”

        Help comes when the person identifies the change they want and starts to believe it can actually happen. Whether it is overcoming an impossible family situation, making a career or study change, standing up to an oppressor, gaining relief from chronic physical pain, igniting creative inspiration, feeling less alone, or beginning to value their self worth, at the root of suicidal feelings is often powerlessness to change your life – not giving up on life itself.”

        Sadly, one of the ways therapists are encouraging suicidal persons to cope with the overwhelming pain they face is to engage in Eastern forms of meditation and “mindfulness” therapy:

        We have the original and better alternative to mindfulness therapy — teaching our brothers and sisters who struggle with suicidal ideation and constant overwhelming pain and despair, their need to do the spiritual battle of taking thoughts continually captive — which I learned to do, after years of struggle anxiety and depression, and with suicidal ideation. I outline here how I came back from a suicidal psychosis:

        • EricP


          Thanks for sharing your story. I admire your passion, but I disagree on a few points of emphasis. Progress is being made in suicide prevention in mainstream psychiatry. Medicine can help the severely ill. Pastors or 1 guy in New Zealand aren’t the best sources of information. Mindfulness might work for some and it is not inherently evil. Depression is not necessarily a spiritual battle.

          • Karen Butler

            “Pastors or 1 guy in New Zealand aren’t the best sources of information.”

            You are right! Thank you for helping me to see how awkwardly I framed that quote seemingly attributal to a pastor, critical of psychiatry, which actually were the words of an NPR reporter. But it underlines your point! Because the pastor writing there at Cripplegate was actually expressing his surprise that the chemical imbalance theory for depression has been thrown out by mainstream psychiatry, and has been abandoned for years.

            This theory is still a convenient truth for psychiatry, because it enables the placebo effect of medications, as Dr. Marcia Angell, former Chief Editor with the New England Journal of Medicine,and currently lecturer on issues of Public Health at Harvard outlines in some articles written for the New York Review of Books two years ago.

            The articles, “The Epidemic of Mental Illness, Why? and “The Illusions of Psychiatry” created quite a stir, and one of the blowbacks was to get some of the biggest proponents of the chemical imbalance theory to admit it was a fiction. Now the rest of the mainstream media is beginning to report it, and thus the pastor at the Cripplegate were expressing their surprise.

            Here are Dr. Angells’ groundbreaking articles:


            And please note that the “one guy” in New Zealand is a professor of suicidology, he is not alone in his opinions, and he is presenting research to experts in his field at the foremost conference on the subject.

            It is so important, as you say, to have current information on the subject of psychiatry. Johnson and Johnson is now paying billions in fines for falsely marketing its’ antipsychotic, Risperdal, but many of us who are educated about psychiatry’s deceits are outraged that those in the profession who let Big Pharma pay them to do promote drugs, or ghostwrite their research aren’t having equivalent penalties.

  • Cindy Blankenship

    My father in law, committed suicide at age 80. He was a believer with five children, thirteen grandchildren who were ALL believers. He had struggled with depression off and on for years. We believe a medicine he was taking to help him sleep pushed him over the edge and he took his life. I have no doubt in my mind he is with His Lord now. He has missed so many blessings he could have shared with us, but that is the consequence of his actions. They say suicide is a permanent solution to temporary problems. So true. I wish he had finished the race strong, but it is what it is.

  • Alex Guggenheim

    I believe the disturbing nature of suicide lends itself to the idea a person cannot be saved and have committed suicide along with the prominent historic RCC teaching that suicide destined one to damnation via falling short with our works and which teaching long permeated western thought.

    Removed from that we can see in a biblical context that no such thing is concluded by Scripture and, in fact, the contrary, that all sins are forgiven in our redemption as well as the record of Samson pointed out earlier.

  • Andrea Doherty

    He who perseveres to the end will be saved. Not sure whether this would mean you have not persevered if you commit suicide.

  • Kristi

    The Lord is teaching me so much about His awesome grace and love over the last few years. My brother committed suicide a few years ago. I also had a believing friend commit suicide when I was in college. God’s grace is abundant even to me, who is the worst of sinners. I tried to take my life also a few years ago. I am learning, by God’s grace, that I need Jesus each day and each minute to continue to live in this life. My dependence on the Lord to live another day makes my fellowship with Him even sweeter. I love the Lord and more importantly He loves me!

    • EricP

      Thanks for sharing. I’m so sorry about your brother and your friend. I hope you are doing better now and are getting any care that you need.

  • Del

    I think you meant to pose the question “MAY a Christian commit suicide?” which does then imply the additional questions is “WOULD a Christian commit suicide?” or “What consequences result?” etc. And your article and the ensuing comments point out the difficulties with trying to answer these questions. But also implied is “COULD a Christian commit suicide?” Or in other words “Is it alright to do so?” A question of permission.

    It is a fact that professing Christians do and have committed suicide. The So the “would” question is moot. And the article points out that it may not be entirely possible to answer with certainty the question of consequences of suicide (as a *sin*), Bible references notwithstanding. So it seems the most pertinent question is that of permission: “COULD a Christian commit suicide?”

    The reasons a person commits suicide vary, but I suspect that, broadly speaking, the typical reasons are despair, depression, hopelessness. A philosophical discussion defending or attacking the idea of suicide may do little to persuade a person in despair against the choice terminating their life. But permissibility is a relevant question to ask in light of trends toward neo-eugenics, assisted suicide, abortion, etc.

    G.K. Chesterton, in his book “Orthodoxy” provides a cogent philosophical explanation of the Church’s position that suicide is a moral and spiritual issue, why it is discouraged, why is considered a “sin.” He was not trying to convince a man on a ledge to NOT jump, but to convince his readers why we should discourage suicide as an acceptable norm. (FYI: The “Mr. Archer” referred to is a late 19th century figure who had suggested the idea of the use of so-called “suicidal automatic machines” (assisted suicide machines) in keeping with the trends of Eugenic philosophy of the period. Such suggestions are still being made in our out day and age.)

    I’d try to boil it down, but Chesterton said it better than I can:
    “In all this I found myself utterly hostile to many who called themselves liberal and humane. Not only is suicide a sin, it is the sin. It is the ultimate and absolute evil, the refusal to take an interest in existence; the refusal to take the oath of loyalty to life. The man who kills a man, kills a man. The man who kills himself, kills all men; as far as he is concerned he wipes out the world. His act is worse (symbolically considered) than any rape or dynamite outrage. For it destroys all buildings: it insults all women. The thief is satisfied with diamonds; but the suicide is not: that is his crime. He cannot be bribed, even by the blazing stones of the Celestial City. The thief compliments the things he steals, if not the owner of them. But the suicide insults everything on earth by not stealing it. He defiles every flower by refusing to live for its sake. There is not a tiny creature in the cosmos at whom his death is not a sneer. When a man hangs himself on a tree, the leaves might fall off in anger and the birds fly away in fury: for each has received a personal affront. Of course there may be pathetic emotional excuses for the act. There often are for rape, and there almost always are for dynamite. But if it comes to clear ideas and the intelligent meaning of things, then there is much more rational and philosophic truth in the burial at the cross-roads and the stake driven through the body, than in Mr. Archer’s suicidal automatic machines. There is a meaning in burying the suicide apart. The man’s crime is different from other crimes — for it makes even crimes impossible.

    About the same time I read a solemn flippancy by some free thinker: he said that a suicide was only the same as a martyr. The open fallacy of this helped to clear the question. Obviously a suicide is the opposite of a martyr. A martyr is a man who cares so much for something outside him, that he forgets his own personal life. A suicide is a man who cares so little for anything outside him, that he wants to see the last of everything. One wants something to begin: the other wants everything to end. In other words, the martyr is noble, exactly because (however he renounces the world or execrates all humanity) he confesses this ultimate link with life; he sets his heart outside himself: he dies that something may live. The suicide is ignoble because he has not this link with being: he is a mere destroyer; spiritually, he destroys the universe. And then I remembered the stake and the cross-roads, and the queer fact that Christianity had shown this weird harshness to the suicide. For Christianity had shown a wild encouragement of the martyr. Historic Christianity was accused, not entirely without reason, of carrying martyrdom and asceticism to a point, desolate and pessimistic. The early Christian martyrs talked of death with a horrible happiness. They blasphemed the beautiful duties of the body: they smelt the grave afar off like a field of flowers. All this has seemed to many the very poetry of pessimism. Yet there is the stake at the crossroads to show what Christianity thought of the pessimist.”

    • EricP

      We need better terms. You are talking of suicide as a means of pain avoidance. That has little or nothing in common with suicide because of mental illness.

      • Del

        I am not talking about suicide as a means of pain avoidance, nor is Chesterton in the passage quoted. There are varied reasons a person considers suicide, and in all cases it’s a painful and agonizing experience for all involved. I only meant to reflect on the Church’s stance on suicide.

        • EricP

          Are you talking about suicide by the mentally ill? To you, is there any difference between someone who is rational and irrational? That’s where I was going.

  • Douglas

    I think that it took a great deal of time and reflection on scriptures to write such an article. You’ve done a great job on it. So many people are so afraid of this toplc. Largely because there is nothing,per se, that really covers it. I applaud your work.

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  • jin

    D. McDonald,

    Thanks again for such a heart felt post! My heart goes out to you!

    I understand that there is no possible way for us to repent ALL of our sins literally and I am sure God does not require us to do so. It is the matter of our heart and intent. God will see our hearts and where our true intentions are and will make the right and true judgement. I am sure that there are many many instances in history where sudden tragic accidents have caused deaths. I am confident that our Lord will make just judgement in all of these cases. Let’s leave those situations to God and just trust in Him.

    Having said that, it is also important to just simply call a spade, a spade. Sin is sin. There is no way around it. Willful suicide is a selfish act without any faith in God desecrating the body temple that God has given us as a gift. Furthermore, God gave us rules and laws so that there would be boundries for us to live in. There may be special circumstances, but it is not our job to judge which is right and which is wrong. It is God’s decision. We just have to try to live within those boundries that our Lord has set for us.

    In the movie As Good As It Gets, Jack Nicholson is a jerk of a man suffering from OCD who falls in love with Helen Hunt. In one scene of the movie, Jack is out to dinner with Helen. As an OCD suffering jerk, Jack makes a very disrespectful remark that gets Helen very upset just prior to dinner. Helen gets up to leave and demands from Jack one complement so that she has a reason to stay for dinner. Jack responds by telling her that she makes him want to become a better man, even to the point of taking medication for his OCD. With this complement, Helen just melts. Jack further confesses that it has been a real struggle for him to overcome his OCD and that it has been hard. This further touches Helen’s heart and she moves closer and kisses him.

    This little scene illustrates perfectly how our relationship with Jesus is! Because of our love for Him we want to be a better man despite our sinful nature that we ourselves can not change. And just like the struggle Jack is going through in trying to change his OCD ways, we all struggle with our sinful nature. The most wonderful part of this is that Jesus loves and appreciates us that much more for struggling for Him! just like how Helen appreciated Jack for trying to change.

    It is the same with any sin and with suicide. Suicide is sin. But, God knows that we, born with a sinful nature, sometimes can’t help ourselves. But the fact that we at least try and struggle with our sins shows Him our love for Him. Jesus appreciates our struggle!!

    In all of this, the most important thing is our intent and where our heart lies. I guess that’s where the line is in determining if suicide will condemn that person or not.

    • D. McDonald

      Thank you for your kind words. I agree that it is a matter of our hearts, which the heart is indicative of our position in Christ. I also believe suicide is a product of our fallen world, whether the person who commits it understands what they have done or not. But even if a Christian who commits suicide is the exception to the rule, I guess I am simply coming at it from the standpoint that I want to help, not condemn, those who feel this way simply because I know how hard it is to go through this. The church I grew up would not talk about this issue simply because, in its mind, it was simply a black and white issue. The attitude was not to mourn with those who mourn when something like this happened, but to smugly chalk up another lost soul to hell. I guess from that angle, it is also an heart issue. But I digress, so I will stop, for now! Take care, D

  • Phil

    When I read this post my first thought was of those who jumped from the top floors of the World Trade Center on September 11. Some of those people may have been Christians; all of them had to make a horrible choice: suffocate from the smoke or jump. Either way they were going to die and many of them probably realized that. What about them?

  • Nick Collins

    Suicide is often CAUSED by sin. At other times, depression (not even related to sin, other than the fall) causes it. For the suicidal person, this is the only way out – an end to torment. I’ve heard it said, “Don’t knock suicide until you’ve tried it” which may reflect on mental states.
    However: look at it ‘mathematically’ – if suicide results in damnation, does NOT committing suicide guarantee no loss of salvation? If so, refraining becomes a ‘work’ ‘earning’ salvation. In other words, I feel I want to end it all, but I will hold out so that I won’t lose my salvation.

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  • Michele

    My brother committed murder and my son committed suicide, both of which were Christians. Both my brother and son were on various drugs for mental illnesses. I truly believe that Satan used psych drugs to rob my brother, his victim, and my son of their lives. I have otherwise read that most acts of school violence including murder and suicide are perpetrated by individuals who are taking psych drugs.

    I forgive my son for what he did simply because I can see that he had a very difficult life. I can see that he wasn’t thinking right at the time. He was a good person and deserves to go to heaven. If I can see that, don’t you think that God, who is so much more righteous and compassionate than I can ever be, can see that too?

    On the other hand, my brother is a depraved individual. The wicked thoughts and decisions that he has made in his life caused God to hand him over to a wicked spirit so that led him to do what ought not to have been done. Although he has been baptized and claims to be Christian, I really don’t know if he has ever been a Christ follower. I don’t know if my brother is saved but, like I said, God is much more righteous and compassionate than I can ever be.

    Sometimes I think about how utterly fantastic it would be if me, my brother, and son still make it to heaven in spite of all of our turmoils…and its then that I realize that it is for this hope that Jesus Christ died for me.

    • Karen Butler


      I am so sorry for the loss of your son. I know this thread is no longer really active, but I have been haunted by your comments, and have been praying for you. I am so glad that you are finding comfort in Jesus. He is our only hope.

      I agree with you about psychotropic drugs. Big Pharma has resisted making their own studies that show these devastating effects known,and is still seeking to remove the black box warnings about them. For example, in the the lawsuits concerning Abillify, they were hiding the side effect called akathisia, which is an unbearable sensation of inner restlessness. It makes the sufferer feel hopeless, and desperate to exit their body, and thus can lead directly to suicidal thoughts.

      (Such side effects can linger even while a person seeks to taper off the drugs,so for those of you on neuruoleptics,it is so important to withdraw carefully and with support! Here is a link reporting clinical research into what might be experienced while tapering, and how to find support for what clinicians are beginning to recognize as ‘withdrawal syndrome':

      Michele, the website “Mad in America” has some wonderful articles for mothers who grieve for children lost by suicide because of these drug effects. This mother’s testimony and activism might inspire you. I know this blogpost made me weep:

      “Ask any mother whose child is dead if she stopped loving them when they died. Ask her if she stopped being her child’s mother. Ask her if finding ways to continue to parent her child after death is part of her reality but a part she generally can’t talk about for fear of being judged or pathologised.”

      • Michele

        Thank you, Karen, for your kindness. I agree that the psych drugs cause unnatural feelings and thoughts. I believe that the psych drugs somehow make my son and brother more violent people, neither of whom were violent without the drugs. The psych drugs seemed to cause them to lose control over their thoughts and emotions.

        I recently read about a man that had an after-death experience in which he explained that he was aware that everything after death is absolutely righteous. We instantly know all the answers to our questions. The man said that he instantly knew how and why everything happened for a reason. Absolutely everything has a cause and effect. This may sound odd but I somehow find it comforting to know that my son’s death happened for a reason. I like to think that his life and death served some kind of higher purpose. I may not understand now why it had to happen but I find comfort in knowing that I will understand someday…and for whatever reason it had to happen simply because it was right.

        Romans 8:28 And we know that in all things God works for the good of those who love him, who have been called according to his purpose.

        1 Corinthians 13:12 Now we see only a dim likeness of things. It is as if we were seeing them in a mirror. But someday we will see clearly. We will see face to face. What I know now is not complete. But someday I will know completely, just as God knows me completely.

        • Marie Scott

          Karen, I FIRMLY believe that your son is with our savior right now. You will see him again. Jesus said there will be troubles in this world. He didn’t say that his redeeming work on the cross would be lost because of those troubles.

          Big, big hugs from your sister in Christ.

          • MichaelA

            i agree.

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  • Bernard

    i think the act of suicide is a sin no matter the rational behind it because it written in the scripture that for a man has to die ones and after there is judgement. So when you decide to commit suicide one is trying to judge him or herself even though that is sorely left for God almighty to decide.Sometimes it is an act of selfishness that makes a person commit suicide and as Christians we must have in mind that we are here for a purpose and God never created us to commit suicide.

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  • Marie Scott

    Excellent article.

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  • Deb

    My life has spiraled out of control for 4 years. The last year was a living hell. I have waited, prayed and trusted that God would change my circumstances. The last year I have gone to bed wishing I would not wake up and waking up wishing I didn’t. I don’t do drugs, I don’t drink. My life could not be more destroyed then if I had set out to destroy it, which I did not.

    It doesn’t take a lot for me to be content. But I am 56 years old, can’t find a job, about to loose my home no where to go but the street. I’ve had my water shut off for 4 months, power cut, phone and internet. I struggle just to keep the internet on to find a job. I try to get through just one more day. I used to be upper middle class now I’m looking at living in the street. Do I have mental issues? Well I am hopeless, helpless, despairing and depressed. I don’t have a secret sin.

    I would rather live but this is just existing. I see no victory. I don’t know how much longer but God help me it’s not long. I feel abandoned by God. I may only make it a couple of weeks more before I say enough is enough.

    • MichaelA

      I can’t do anything else but pray for you Deb, from 10,000 miles away. May the Lord provide for you.

  • EricP


    Call 1-800-273-8255 National Suicide Prevention Lifeline

    Suicide is never the solution. Go to a local church and they can help you. Continue to trust God.

    • jin

      It is NOT God’s will for any one of us to commit suicide or any other sin.

      I do not presume to know what your are going through Deb. However, I am confident that God knows. Although you may not understand what God may be doing, I am sure He has great plans for you. Please do not look at your immediate situation and judge what you do not know. Please pray ceaselessly and do whatever you can within good reason to get yourself out of the current situation.

      I will pray for you.

  • Steve Bloem

    I liked this fair and balanced article. It shows the author has a good theological base in his interpretation. It is basically what I believe. I deal with many people who are suicidal and are evangelical believers. When I was very suicidal during a depressive episode, I quoted the Bible verse, and I will fear no evil, for You are with me for about two and a half hours. I have walked through the valley of death many times. If it were not for the Lord being on my side, I would be dead! Steve Bloem, co-author of Broken Minds Hope for Healing It When You Feel Like You’re Losing It.

  • Jared W

    So would Christians go to hell if they committed suicide? I hate the world that I am living in and I have gone to God to try to help me with my problems. It just seems that nothing ever seems to work out in my life. Honestly, I want to die but I do not want to burn in hell even more.

    • jamie

      Jared W. I hope you are still out there and able to read this comment. My 14 year old son hung himself this feb. 3rd. We cannot fully understand why and NOBODY in our family or his friends saw it coming. It has completely devastated our family. He left behind a loving Mother and Father, an older brother and younger sister. I firmly believe my son is in Gods loving hands now and one day we will understand why this happened.

      Please realize that the people around you will be absolutely DEVASTATED for years if you decided to do this. Live for them please. Tell the people who love you what is going on. I agree this world is crappy but dont make it worse for the ones that love you. Please seek help. What Me and my family are going through is horrible. God bless.