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Picking up a sub sandwich today, I saw a news report on CNN about Miley Cyrus’ performance at last night’s VMA’s. I was shocked, then sickened, then saddened.

For the rest of the day, I wondered:

What kind of people are we?

What kind of culture have we created?

What do we want our children to be?

No more wondering. Tonight, I weep.

I weep for the little girl who gave us Hannah Montana and became a role model to millions of little girls across America.

I weep for the lostness of a girl who doesn’t see herself stumbling around in the dark.

I weep for the news channels that profit from their all-day coverage of a young woman spiraling out of control.

I weep for the American Idol culture that promises glitter and gold to children, then chews them up and spits them out.

I weep for an entertainment culture that celebrates the breaking of every social taboo and the casting off of every restraint, only then to turn and mock the stars that follow suit.

I weep for a tabloid culture that finds celebrity gossip and embarrassing moments titillating.

I weep for women enslaved by a false view of sexual liberation.

I weep for men (myself included) who have failed to say, “Enough is enough.”

I weep for all the times I’ve looked at women as objects and failed to see them as someone’s sisters and daughters.

I weep for the fathers of Miley Cyrus, Katy Perry, Lady Gaga, Madonna, and all the family members of all the other women who feel they have to sexualize themselves to achieve success.

I weep for my five-year-old little girl, who twirls around like a princess and hugs me tight at night, when I think of the world she is growing up in, the world I will send her into.

I weep for the broken, messed-up world we live in.

But then I weep at the power of grace.

There’s Jesus, lifting the head of a woman of the night and sending her away into the light. There’s Jesus in a crowd, healing a woman desperately trying to cover the shame. There’s Jesus at the well, transforming a woman tossed aside by multiple men.

Weeping is no longer enough. Now, I pray.

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202 thoughts on “I Weep for Miley”

  1. Stephanie says:

    “I weep for all the times I’ve looked at women as objects and failed to see them as someone’s sisters and daughters.”

    This is a good article, and I appreciate any man who is willing to stand up for the personhood(versus sexualization) of women and girls. However, the above quote is particularly telling of a certain prevailing attitude toward females in general. Women and girls are human beings, people in their own right, regardless of their relationships. I am not a human being based on my family relationships, whether I am someone’s sister, daughter, or mother. I am a person, created by God for His purpose, the end. I would LOVE for the men in my life to see me as a full human being, independent of who I am related to. My humanity shouldn’t depend on my relationship with others; it is fully based on the fact that God created male and female; in His image, He created them.

    1. David says:

      “I am not a human being based on my family relationships, whether I am someone’s sister, daughter, or mother.”

      Actually, the foundational reason you are a human being is because of family relationships. You could not be a human being without a mom and a dad.

      Same goes for men.

    2. Melody says:

      Yeah, I winced a little at that. He couldn’t weep because he didn’t see human beings created in God’s own image?

      I know that putting people in the context of their human relationships helps us care about them, but our relationship with God is what matters most. And even if someone has lost all their family and friends or burned all their bridges, they’re still made by God and still valuable because of that.

      1. Jared says:

        I have no doubt Trevin would whole-heartedly agree with you on that note! In this case, I think that phrase was based on the context of the article and situation, not as a sweeping statement that women are only human if they have siblings and/or parents. Though I don’t want to put words in his mouth, it seems he was simply using that image as a tool to help make Miley’s humanity more accessible, not only for TGC readers, but also for those who may not share the same views on the personhood or existence of God. The absence of the statement “I weep because women are created in the image of God” does not mean he disagrees with the it. I would imagine he would affirm that our worth is ultimately based on our relationship to God!

        1. Trevin Wax says:

          Yes, of course.

          Totally agree. Women should not be demeaned or debased because they bear God’s image, not because they have fathers and mothers and brothers.

          For me, it helps to “humanize” not “objectivize” the woman when I think of her familial relationships and I think of all the women in my life – wife, mother, sister, daughter – and how much I love and respect them.

    3. Ken Blackburn says:

      Sounds like you have unresolved problems worrying how other people ought to think about you.

    4. Melody says:

      My sons are taught that they are to see females as children of God, made in the image of God. That would make them daughters. Believers would be their sisters in Christ deserving of the respect and protection from evil that their biological sister deserves.
      Regardless of how they act or dress they deserve that protection otherwise my sons become the instrument of evil.

      I would have loved it if the so called Christian men in my past had treated me as a daughter of God and sister in Christ.

    5. Trevin Wax says:

      UPDATE – 8/30

      I think this comment stream has run its course. I have posted some answers to recurring questions and criticisms here:

      Thanks, all.

  2. Mark says:

    I just saw the article. I don’t know what to…say…but we need Jesus more than never. Yes, Trevin, thank you for your humility in sharing that we men have all looked at women as objects rather than daughters of parents and image bearers of the Most Holy God.

    We weep for a wayward culture that is turning into 1st Century Rome. Help us O Lord, to be different and treat our daughters as daughters of the Most High rather than daughters of the faceless world. Our value comes from God, not from dollars.

    As Sho Baraka once said, “Baby girl you mistake your own value,
    you’re only worth the value of the idol you bow down to” (from Talented Xth, “Michael”). It kills me to see this kind of thing happening.

    But there is hope in Jesus who saves thru Grace…especially those trapped in the system of entertainment.

  3. Lisa Tosi says:

    It’s sad this kids today don’t seem to care about respecting themselves, dress decent and follow others point of view in order to impress others. Maybe it’s because of greedy for power, money, wanting to be famous. Sells their souls to satan, die and spend eternity in hell. I pray she would turn back and start seeing that her way of living is not pleasing God. I hope that her father can influence her to change her ways. I feel very bad for the youth of today and pray God’s mercy on them.

    1. Sean says:

      This post from Lisa frustrates me a great deal. It bothers me when “kids these days” makes an appearance. “Kids these days” are negligibly different at the core, if at all, than kids from “your day,” whenever that may be. That viewpoint is, in my opinion, incredibly short-sighted and self-righteous. The only difference is that social media, the internet, and media in general makes EVERYTHING so much more visible. You don’t think kids from the 20’s, 40’s, 60’s, 70’s etc. acted out? Kids from “your day?” never expressed themselves, be it negatively or positively? Got lost within a seemingly endless spiral of Godlessness? Conversely, you don’t think that there are other “kids these days” who are God-fearing, self-respecting, and sexually pure? You are fooling yourself if you think otherwise. The sad – but true – fact is that Miley Cyrus is no different than the majority of 16 to 24 year olds from now, from 50 years ago, or 50 years from now. The problems and obstacles might be a little different, but the problems and obstacles remain never-the-less.

      The battle for the souls of humanity is not limited to the “youth of today.” Pray for everyone, young and old. Now and for forever. We all need God’s love and mercy and we are ALL sinners who owe Christ everything.


      A Youth of Today

      1. Robert Thompson says:

        Sean, if you think the youth of today is the same as the youth 50 years ago, you are mistaken. Yeah, there were still youth back then that did it, but no where near the extent that it is today, and it is due to the change in the culture. And he never said that they we are better than them, not once did he say that. And don’t try to say that all youth of today agree with that statement, because we don’t. Being 18, I am apart of that youth that you were supposedly trying to speak for, and I don’t appreciate it. But if you don’t think the culture has changed, then you are sadly mistaken.

  4. Carolynn says:

    I had the same feelings as yo when I heard about this.

  5. BG says:

    bravo Mr Wax, bravo

  6. Amy says:

    Thank you! This is a beautiful reminder.

  7. Jillian says:

    This is such a beautifully sad article. I weep and pray with you brother!

  8. Rich Thomas says:

    Wait, what did Katy Perry do? Or are you just lumping her in with everybody else you disapprove of based solely on the fact that she’s a young female entertainer, so she must have done something wrong?

    1. Dwayne says:

      Katy Perry also is highly sexualized and is a role model to many young girls who should not be sexualized. She should not be parading around half dressed, and singing songs that encourage sinful behavior.

      1. Rich Thomas says:

        Oh, okay. Sorry. I had her confused with that other public figure who doesn’t sin.

        1. td says:

          who is that? what confusion?

        2. Melody says:

          Everyone sins. Not everyone tries to influence masses to do it with them. She knows better.

        3. Robert Thompson says:

          So what you are saying is that since everyone else does it, it’s ok, because that’s not biblical. And there are several celebrities/public figures who are very great role models, yes they sin like all others, but they aren’t living in continuous sin like Miley Cyrus/Katy Perry/Lady Gaga and others, but because of the culture of today, young people only look at the ones like Miley Cyrus and Katy Perry as role models, a very select few actually follow people like Tim Tebow, Kirk Cameron, Tim Hudson, and a few others. That what Trevin was getting at I believe.

    2. Jachike says:

      I have to admit I don’t know much about Katy Perry but i seem to remember her singing, ‘I kissed a girl and I liked it’. What do you think that encourages?. I’m just saying…

      1. Rich Thomas says:

        Oh, okay. Sorry. I had her confused with that other public figure who doesn’t hates gays like a good Christian.

        1. Paige says:

          Rich, how about “Let’s go all the way tonight
          No regrets, just love,” or her video for California girls. Not to say that Katy Perry doesn’t have some empowering songs, or that other public figures are better, but she is highly sexualized.

      2. wooooooow says:

        I wouldn’t say it encourages it, but it is about homosexuality. I fail to see anything wrong with it. However, your religion encourages hatred towards other human beings. In what way does someone’s sexuality affect you? It literally can’t unless you let it. But feel free to school me. I geniunely want to know.

        1. avery says:

          FYI: Westboro BC and their thinking is not Christian. True Christians hate nobody. The only thing Christians are commanded by God to hate is sin, just as He hates sin. That sin includes not only homosexuality, but also the rest of the sins even Christians tend to look past: pride, gluttony, bitterness, etc. I have a brother who is a homosexual and several other family members and many friends, but I still love them. I just wish people would stop thinking Christianity is what Westboro Baptist Cult demonstrates.

    3. ella says:

      Rich, you are right. Because she’s female, because she isn’t afraid of her own sexuality…those are the reasons people try to knock them down. I’m currently reading the Da Vinci Code and I keep seeing more and more examples of how Christianity was created by powerful men to make themselves more powerful and to put women in a lesser position. I’m a little sad because I wanted to believe in Christianity. :'( but I cannot accept that men over women, women obey the man, men rule attitude. It’s not right. There needs to be a balance between masculine and feminine and I believe because Christians took women out of that equation with Eve’s original sin, women being the accomplice of the devil for everything wrong…etc…it’s the reason why the world is out of balance and things have gone so wrong. :( Read Da Vinci Code page 135. ‘”life out of balance”- an unstable situation marked by testosterone-feuled wards, a plethora of misogynistic societies, and a growing disrespect for Mother Earth.” How can any woman accept a religion that doesn’t value them as much as a man? Who feels they should be forever punished for the original sin of one woman? It makes me want to cry.

      1. Matt says:

        Right, because the DaVinci Code is such an accurate portrayal of Christianity.

      2. Cheryl says:

        Ella, that would make me want to cry too. I am a follower of Jesus and read my Bible. I know the history too. But for myself, I believe there is a difference between what the Bible teaches and what humans have done through history with that teaching, like blaming Eve for original sin. The account is pretty clear that Adam was with her – “and she also gave some to her husband who was with her, and he ate…” (Genesis 3:6), and that as human nature goes Adam blamed Eve (I can just hear someone say “isn’t that just like a man!” :D ). It seems to me that when Jesus came to the earth he had special compassion on what were the outcasts/lessers in his society – the poor, children and women as three examples. Just the fact that he allowed a bleeding woman to touch him speaks volumes to me about how upside down he was compared to the culture he lived in. I’d encourage you to research how Jesus interacted with those people and see how that might differ from what culture has done with “Christianity.”

  9. JED says:

    How about weeping for the 30,000 kids that died of starvation yesterday?

    How about weeping for the countless victims of abuse and violence around the world?

    How about weeping for the souls that will be lost and separate from God for eternity because no one ever told them about Jesus?

    Of all the things to be troubled about to the point of weeping, the exploits of some celebrity singer seem pretty trivial compared to these.

    1. Dwayne says:

      The reason why what celebrities do is so important is because they are role models to younger generations. Its the society as a whole that has been corrupted to the point that allows things like this. Many children that starve around the world are there because of this kind of societal thinking: “I am more important. I am in control and I can do what I want.” Which is EXACTLY the kind of thinking that leads to Mileys VMA performance. The Bible also states that everyone has the chance to hear of Jesus before their time, and before Christ will come again. Everyone has that choice, and those that are children that are under the age of accountability, are in Heaven when they pass from this world.

      1. Steve Dawson says:

        We make a mistake when we classify celebrities as role models. Celebrities may have some talent, may be famous,but are not necessarily people who we want to look up to. There are plenty of examples of role models in our society, they may not have the name recognition of a celebrity. Think Antionette Tuff, the teachers that saved the children in Oklahoma,and Sandy Hook, Ct.Those are the people who we should be using as role models for our children. Just because someone is attractive, has talent does not make make them a role model.

        1. Robert says:

          I completely agree, celebrities aren’t real role models, but most teenagers in today’s culture look at them as role models.

    2. Unknown says:

      It saddens me that you only see the part about the celebrities in this article … that is only half of the point … his weeping is for all those young souls that will be influenced by the images and videos that are seen all over the place in today’s society.

      These celbrities impact people and lately it hasn’t been in a good way. So he is weeping for all those young impressionable souls that can be so easily tainted by these “role models”

      I am sure that he weeps for other things as well, this just happens to be an issue that is fresh in the news right now. Your judgment on what he should and shouldn’t be weeping over is unnecessary for you do not know the full extent of his heart … this may just be a small piece of it.

      Thank you Trevin Wax for sharing with you and I share in your weeping and I too pray for todays society.

    3. Kym says:

      People like you are the reason so many are running from Christianity in droves. Did he say he wasn’t weeping for those things? No. Did he say forget the homeless and the starving, I am only praying for lost celebrities? No. However, instead of saying, I stand with you brother you chose to criticize. You chose to question his motives and treat lost people who YESHUA died for like they don’t matter, like they are trivial. Well they matter to YHWH and they should matter to you. If you don’t feel led to pray for them that’s fine but you don’t criticize someone who does.

      1. JED says:

        People are running from Christianity because Christians aren’t actually doing anything productive to change their society, they are only complaining and condemning, not making a real effort to help those in need and show Christ’s love. He obviously chose to write about this over the other, more serious issues I raised, which is what we see a lot of among Christians today – Christians more offended at the state of popular culture than the millions of people in need around the world – which demonstrates very clearly where the priorities of Christians in America are – and why we are failing to make real change for the glory of God.

        1. A says:

          People who are influenced by popular culture ARE in need! Recognising this can motivate us to reach out to our children and teenagers who are lost, who have no idea who God is, and who have made choices that they may regret, and perhaps felt forced into by their peers. I guess, based on your heart for the poor, that you are involved in social ministries of some description, and that is really great. These things are very much needed, and can lead to God’s name being glorified. Thank-you for your passion for that area, and I trust that God is using you. But please don’t forget that our children, our teenagers, our students all need to hear the message of the Bible also – they will be the ones to take the message to the world after we are gone (unless Jesus returns before that). They are just as lost as the starving in our society and in other countries. While your heart may be more towards serving those with hungry stomachs and hungry souls, there are others whose heart is to serve the culture in which they live, which may involve the full stomachs and hungry souls. Both are very valid, and commendable, ways to serve God and show Him to the world. Neither should be condemned, or put down as inferior to the other. Both should be supported as ministries that God will use to glorify His name, and should be supported by us all as the body of Christ.

          1. JED says:

            Great. Then let’s start getting as angry about mass starvation, violence and abuse as we do some celebrity’s performance at an awards show. Then, let’s actually do something about it rather than just weep.

        2. A says:

          “People are running from Christianity because Christians aren’t actually doing anything productive to change their society, they are only complaining and condemning, not making a real effort to help those in need and show Christ’s love.”

          Very well said.

          1. Kim Payne says:

            Interesting reaction to someone who is bearing his heart on one area of life. One must remember, you can’t say all things all the time. The blanket statement that Christians are doing nothing is nothing less than the same thing that is being berated. Certainly, there is not the belief that all Christians in all of American have no concern and are doing nothing to alleviate the distress of the world. Very short sighted and actually somewhat judgemental. I applaude the passion. The expression of it is lacking. Also, the idea that people are running from Christianity is because of the Church not doing anything is perhaps only partially correct. As one reads the Gospel and the Epistles, one finds that people run from God because they are enemies and rebels and prefer their own kingdom over that of the Lord. Let’s not lose sight of the deadness of those who are unregenerate and give due to the fact that dead is dead apart from the work of God to regenerate a heart. Again, the passion is commendable. The statement of it and the blanket condemnation needs some work.

        3. Tim H says:

          “People are running from Christianity because Christians aren’t actually doing anything productive to change their society, they are only complaining and condemning, not making a real effort to help those in need and show Christ’s love.”

          This is absolutely and completely false. All around the country and the world there are food banks, homeless shelters, schools, hospitals, after school programs, treatment centers, and uncountable other ministries founded, staffed, and financed by Christians precisely to show Christ’s love and help those in need. Anyone who doesn’t know this has willfully blinded themselves.

          The presence of physical needs in our society in no means that we should ignore its spiritual needs or cease to lament the sad public exploitation of lost, hurting people and the many others who will follow their example.

        4. MrsFudd says:

          Excuse me, but you couldn’t be more wrong. Christians are the ones who are running and volunteering at food banks, homeless shelters, after school programs at churches, going around the world providing for those in need in Africa, India, etc., and the first on the ground at a disaster sight.

          You know who were the FIRST people at that horrific shooting at the “Dark Knight Rises” in Colorado? CHRISTIANS. That’s right. The Christians in the audience were the first ones there to help those shot, comfort those who were freaking out and law enforcement chaplains were there before police.

          Christians were the first at the Gulf Coast after Hurricane Katrina to set up shelters and provide food – NOT the Red Cross or FEMA. And Christians stayed there for 5 years afterwards. I know because I was there. The camp I worked at didn’t close down until 2011….long after the Red Cross and FEMA had pulled out.

          So get your facts straight before being so accusing. Your ignorance makes you look like a fool.

          1. Matt says:

            ““People are running from Christianity because Christians aren’t actually doing anything productive to change their society, they are only complaining and condemning, not making a real effort to help those in need and show Christ’s love.”

            This is absolutely and completely false. All around the country and the world there are food banks, homeless shelters, schools, hospitals, after school programs, treatment centers, and uncountable other ministries founded, staffed, and financed by Christians precisely to show Christ’s love and help those in need.”
            Tim said the exact same thing. You need to read the whole thing. Your ignorance makes you look like a fool MrsFudd.

          2. ella says:

            You are very right that Christians do a lot of good, helping others and truly caring. They are for the most part, good people. Just as non-Christians can be good people. And just like many non-Christians, many Christians have done very wrong, too. The Church burned millions of free-thinking women (midwives, herb collectors, scholars, etc) by making up false accusations that these types of women were witches. Christianity has forced women to stand behind men when they should be equal. I know other religions have done similarly as well in regards to treating women as possessions and not equals, but it’s wrong and I think it’s time for that to change.

    4. A says:

      JED: Weeping about a lost soul is trivial? Really? I don’t mean this to sound rude, but we are told to treat others as we would like to be treated…would you have appreciated someone saying that your soul wasn’t worth weeping about, that there were others more appropriate to focus on? I honestly don’t mean that to sound rude, I just wonder if perhaps you didn’t realise the implications of the statement.
      From what I understand in the Bible, we should feel this way about all who are lost, regardless of their social status, education, race etc, if we have truly understood the love of God, the sacrifice He made, and the hopelessness of us all without Him. Just because someone isn’t standing looking malnourished and poorly clothed doesn’t mean they’re less worthy of our love and compassion, or any less worthy of God’s forgiveness. Given that a large proportion of teenage girls in the West, and increasingly in the East, idolise celebrities, I’m afraid many of our lost will look just like Miley Cyrus…just as many of the lost in Africa may look skeletal (as, indeed, may many of the saved).
      And who knows, perhaps nobody has actually explained the Gospel to this young girl properly (I really know nothing of her background or of conversations she may have had), in which case she would fall into the category of “How about weeping for the souls that will be lost and separate from God for eternity because no one ever told them about Jesus?”

      1. JED says:

        You should weep for every lost soul. Do you consider the soul of a famous person more appropriate to focus on than the souls of the millions who are lost? Because that’s what I get when I read this article.

        And when we’re through weeping, what are we actually going to about it? When are Christians going to get of their couches, stop complaining and start impacting their world for Christ with love rather than condemnation? That’s what I’d like to know.

        1. margaret says:

          Jed, I would ask “what are you doing wasting time in the comments instead of helping the poor?” But that would be presumptuous. I don’t know what God has called upon you to do today.

          I do know the scripture says, “Who are you to judge someone else’s servant? To their own master, servants stand or fall.”

          In the course of serving his Master, Trevin has produced a thoughtful, well-written article from a godly and loving perspective. It happens to be about a celebrity, a category you may consider beneath caring for. But you aren’t Trevin’s master. He doesn’t answer to you. The un-famous in need of Christ we have with us always, and God cares about them (us) without regard to status. But we must in humility be open to the possibility that other lost souls concern God as well–even those of the famous. It may be this man is weeping for Miley because God has called him to.

        2. Kraig says:

          JED, I sense you are passionate about helping the voiceless. That is wonderful–religion, pure and undefiled. I feel inadequate to change the world or to help every person in need in other countries. I feel like the only thing I can do is give generously to missionaries and ministries that are on the field helping the voiceless and sharing the love of Christ. And while I give generously to those causes in other countries, I will probably never travel to them (I would rather give $3000 to help people than buy a plane ticket to see them in their helplessness). Yet I can also at the same time be sad about the way many people are obsessed with the erotic and find self-value only in unbound sexual expression.

          Please tell me, what do you do when you get off your couch/computer, stop complaining about what Christians are doing wrong or not doing at all, and start impacting your world for Christ with love? What does that look like for you? Please share your insights so that others may follow your example as you follow Christ.

      2. Melody says:


        I do not believe that number about millions being burned for being witches. That is just made up. I want to see documentation. And I don’t mean some blog that talks about it like it is true either.

        As for women being equal, telling women that they have to be a sexual slave to the public to be loved is the bigger lie. I would rather be burned at the stake than to believe that lie ever again.

        Putting someone on a stage practically naked, acting like something that would have performed in front of Herod is not equality or freedom. It’s enslavement. And it comes from the secular world.

    5. Angela says:

      When it all comes down to it, we are all people. Some are given a bigger platform…. like celebrities and unfortunately, much of our society looks to them for an example. Jesus died for everyone and desires that ALL men be saved. So in light of the recent news… that was what this article was considering.
      You can bet at the next junior high dances, there will be young girls emulating Miley. They wont think it’s a big deal, because when you are young, you don’t think about things as deeply as you do as a mature adult. So, being that this is a relevant to our times and fresh issue, there is nothing wrong for weeping for Miley and our children who are influenced to some degree by her. Whether it be by feeling the pressure to oversexualize themselves to get noticed or witnessing perhaps their own friends take that route. Yes, we have choices to make and they are all by our own doing, but there is nothing wrong with wanting to surround our children with positive influences in the world we live in and share. Her actions were the top tweeted on Twitter the other night in the trending section. So the world watched… And this journalist has compassion and is thinking in “depth” about the ramifications of Miley’s choice and how it effects others. I’m sure he cares about starving and the lost. And to ask him why he’s not weeping for them is just silly and illogical. This was a very well written post. There’s always going to be people out there who you JUST CAN’T PLEASE… no matter what you say. Thank you for such a well written article and the compassion and love you show.

    6. Mark Z says:

      I think you missed the point JED. You make a straw man argument by your claims. Simply because the author expresses concern over our culture’s demoralizing sexuality doesn’t mean he DOESN’T care for victims of starvation and abuse. It’s entirely possible to care about both, and I’m sure the author certainly does. There are a plethora of major concerns in our world today, and simply because someone spent an afternoon weeping for one that doesn’t concern you is no reason to get on his back about it.

      1. JED says:

        Actually what I’ve noticed is that Christians in America seem to be more offended by things like this rather than the fact that 30,000 kids starve to death every day. Can anyone please explain that? I always hear Christians condemning the popular culture and very few getting equally angry and disturbed about things like starvation, abuse and violence.

        It’s time Christians in America get off their couches, get rid of their TVs and start impacting the world for Christ, rather than just complaining and condemning all the time.

        The early Christians lived in a depraved Roman Empire, yet they didn’t go around complaining about the behavior of the Romans, they showed the love of Christ, and the people of Rome turned from their previous lifestyle because they saw Christ working through the Christians, and they wanted to experience it for themselves. The same can happen in America in 2013, if Christians would actually make an effort to show love rather than constant condemnation at a distance with no interest in doing anything productive to change their society.

        1. Scott says:

          So Jed, just what are doing doing about all these things, or is it your calling to simply attack other Christian concerning your perceived failures on their part? How exactly is placing an intent on Mr. Wax (a false intent in my opinion)and others making a difference in those areas? And above all, how is expressing a heartfelt sadness for the life of a young lady that is seemingly lost and on a road to destruction, not Christlike?

        2. CEC says:

          It appears as though you’re doing the same thing, JED…condemning. So why don’t you share with us what you are doing to change the world and to show love like the Christians in Rome. Perhaps we will be inspired.

          And please consider that it is possible that we (Christians who are different than you…think differently than you do) are doing more than you think we are.

        3. Hamster says:

          JED, I don’t want to pile on, but in the depraved Roman culture, there was a stigma and at times danger attached to the title of Christian, as such there was risk associated with claiming it. In fact, in face of persecution there was a possible double stigma for those who claimed to be Christian and then renounced Christ; as believer to non christians and apostate to believers. Today there is no stigma associated with saying that you are a Christian, only with aspects of living like one. So until the last vestiges of Christendom fall, there will be those who profess Christ out of ignorance (I was born a Baptist so I am Christian) or selfishness (where there is reputation or financial benefit to “being” Christian).

          Too many churches (honestly, one would be too many) use social causes as an excuse to ignore the lost among them. It is a tragedy that so many die of starvation or have to live in what we consider squalor, but Christians cannot lose sight of the fact that it is a far greater tragedy that the truth of the Gospel is not preached and souls are condemned. Jesus modeled feeding the hungry, but he also modeled being hungry along side the hungry so that truth might be preached and ultimately Jesus did not die on the cross that all men might eat their fill in this life, but that they might eat their fill at His table in the next.

      2. BP says:

        JED I feel sad that you are so quick to judge Christians and their behavior. Every Christian and their calling of what they dedicate their life to is so different. There are Christians who focus on the starving, the beaten, the lonely, the tired, among so much more. We each have our own calling similar to people in their job choices. We do what we can within our own resources.

        As Christians, it is not our job to judge. I agree with Trevin that we should pray for this young girl and not condemn her. It is not our job to pass judgment. If anything I feel sorry for her.
        I think my reaction to Miley Cryus like many others is shock. I question why she felt it so necessary to act in such a manner. I did not watch the VMAs. I do not particular like those media events just because I do not care to watch the lengthy award ceremony. However due to the numerous comments made, I felt inclined to watch Miley’s clip. I sat their saddened and disgusted by the behavior that I hope my children would never emulate. I turned off the video before it would finish. As I mentioned, I do not condemn her, but am disgusted merely by the behavior and what it signifies. She is a young woman that made a bad decision, but that does not mean she is a completely lost individual. I believe as Christians we are called to “love the sinner ,but not their sins.” And in this situation, I do not love the behavior that was demonstrated by this young woman. She is experiencing a challenging situation as a result of the VMAs. I can only pray that she is able to find hope and learn from this negative situation.

        As for the 30,000 starving children, I will see what I can do. : )

    7. KT says:

      JED, I guess you missed this prayer for suffering children, posted here just two days ago:

    8. Josh says:

      JED, don’t be that guy who only finds the negative in an obviously heart filled message. Trevin experienced the event, and spoke his heart about it. This is our nation and the media/celebrity culture greatly influences it. Miley’s behavior is only a result of the desires of the masses.

    9. Jacob Ramey says:

      Totally agree my friend.

    10. ella says:

      Jed, you are right. Good points.

    11. Jak Charles says:

      If you want to weep about the world you’d have to weep 24×7

      An individual is able to express his views on an event – Miley Cyrus influences millions of kids

      It is like asking a Doctor who served as a missionary in Kenya- why not Uganda? why not India? why not Philippines!!

      please do not type such a comment unless you can weep for the whole world

  10. Tony J :) says:

    I so appreciate what you have to say about Jesus’ transforming power and the need to pray, not just weep. What so many Christians fail to realize is that as vile as the actions of Miley, Katy, Gaga, etc. are, they are not the enemy. They, just like you and I, are lost souls in need of the transforming power of Jesus Christ, and just because they are in the public eye does not mean that they are not created in God’s image.

    I weep and pray for Miley and the rest, but I weep and pray just as much for Christians that say “I hate Miley Cyrus” rather than “Let’s pray for Miley Cyrus”.

  11. Dean says:

    You are so right. The initial response is to recoil in disgust, and rightfully so, at the sinfulness of it all. But there is a person behind it all that Jesus died for, and we should weep for her. She is a prisoner, and only He can set her free. Thank you for helping to pit kingdom perspective on this sad event.

  12. grace says:

    Also remember we are not only someone’s daughter, wife, mother, sister… We are people in our own right, made also in God’s image, created to be partners with men in caring for this world. Our relationships are important but please, do not define us only in relation to men, that contributes to the problem. Remember us as equals in God’s eyes, made of the same stuff as you, with some beautiful differences which do not make us inferior, but which should be respected for how important they are in our partnership. It is so important that christian men value us as equals in a culture that objectifies us.

    1. ella says:

      Exactly, Grace! But I know that the religion as a whole sees women as the wrong doers, the original sinners, the ones made to obey the husbands…you can’t fully get away from that. That is the one thing I disagree with in the Bible and the Christian religion. I can’t look past that.

      1. Cheryl says:

        Ella, going to jump in here again. I agree that the “religion” as a whole does see women negatively, at least historically. But in the Bible, God creates Eve as a satisfactory and complementary helper. Not one that was made to serve him, but one to walk with him as a partner. Genesis 2:18 (check it out in the Amplified version).

        Also, in Genesis 1 the text says, “Then God said, “Let Us make man in Our image, according to Our likeness; […]” God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them.” If God is making man in His image, then His image must reflect both male and female, and if He truly hated women He’d be hating Himself. (not that God is male or female, just using the historical “He”)

  13. leo silve says:

    Miley Cyrus made her choice. Despite how she was raised, despite her past “wholesome” image. She has made her choice. Hollywood has got the better of her. We certainly should pray for her, and we should tell our kids there is a lesson to learned here. That if we are not careful, the world can get the better of us too. Our kids can definitely learn from Miley’s wrong choices, without emulating her.

    1. Melody says:

      She’s 20. A lot of people make dumb choices at 20 and make better choices later. You don’t have to write all those people off. Especially if they’re figuring out adulthood through the lens of a skewed childhood.

  14. kiddyork says:

    the world doesnt need more jesus, and doesnt need to pray for her. people are too hyper sensitive nowadays. every generation will do something that a prior generation doesnt approve of. if you dont want your daughter acting like that then parent your child the way you see fit. end of story.

  15. Morgan says:

    Stop watching. You have better things to do.

  16. joanb says:

    Don’t say “WE!” I’ve never approved or condoned this. Sad for this young person and sad for her family. Hopefully, they have enough conscience to be embarrassed by her pathetic actions. Robin Thicke needs to be slapped. I don’t know if he has a daughter, but if he does, is this something he would want someone else to use her for such display? Or maybe he would be o.k. with that.

  17. Amy B says:

    While I agree that there are other pressing issues that should make us weep, I do not think there is anything wrong with writing an article about one of those things and excluding the others. And yes, Miley Cyrus has made her choices well known, but so had the woman at the well, and the woman that was about to get stoned. We should not be surprised when sinners sin, but we should be greatly saddened by it. Thank you, Mr. Wax, for reminding me to weep over sin. And to pray.

  18. Dave says:

    Psalms 119:136 My eyes shed streams of tears, because people do not keep your law.

  19. Tom says:

    One more thing to weep for – I weep for parents like you who believe that ‘Hannah Montana’ could ever be a positive role model for anyone, much less your children. Hannah Montana was a fictional character, and quite frankly so was Miley Cyrus. True role models come from within your community – real flesh & blood humans that your children can talk to, pray with, work beside, and get to know as real, flawed human beings striving to do the right thing. Had we as parents guided our children towards time with real people, rather than time in front of a TV watching fake ones, Miley Cyrus might have had a normal childhood.

    1. Jak Charles says:

      nice one!!

    2. Ruth says:

      True. I see so, so many parents today filling their kids’ heads with nothing but fantasy.

  20. Stephen says:

    Great post. Thanks. But you forgot one. Didn’t we seen this same thing before with Britney Spears?

  21. Brian says:

    I agree with this article, yet I feel that one thing is missing.
    Women are wanting to be free of everything, even Morals and God.
    The easiest way to do this is from sexual acts.
    We as a people have lost all Boundaries and Moral lines.
    More and More I see women rebelling in this Sexual Manner that is thought to set them free.
    When all it does is destroy themselves and their lives.
    Women use Sex to get a Divorce, to get even with their Parents, or Husband.
    They lost sight of their body being a temple of God for their Husband only.
    I am married to a woman who rebelled against her Father in this manner.
    Finally rebelled against me with several different men over the years.
    All because her friends have showed her that this is what she should do.
    Women support and care for each other, yet this society is nothing more than Lost Women Guiding Young Lost Women.
    In my opinion this should make women Sick to their Stomachs and come to terms with what they have done that is no Different then what they have done.
    Only Difference is Miley did this on stage with Millions of people watching.
    Yet other women have done this with only a few people or behind someones back.
    Society has wished to set women kind free and they have.
    So why should Society be sick with what they have created it to be.
    Only because maybe Society has finally crossed a line that they thought was safe.
    It is time to realize that total Self Actualized Freedom without God or Morals is going to show itself like this again many times.
    It is time for Society to wake up and set those God Given Boundaries once again.

    1. Philippa says:

      @ Brian … I am very sorry that your wife betrayed you, but am disturbed that her behaviour has led you to tar all women with the same brush. Women are not MORE sinful than men. Why aren’t you directing your ire equally at all the MEN who behave promiscuously?

      My birth father abandoned my birth mother when she was five months pregnant with me. But I don’t hate all men because of that. That would make me a very unpleasant person.

  22. schelli says:

    I read this and wholeheartedly agree, I love the honesty as well as the emphasis on bringing it back to the cross. Then I read the comments and it became blaringly evident why we as Christians are often ineffective at impressing on a culture impressing on us…we’re too busy tearing down other Christians for ridiculous reasons. I’m sure he sees women as individual human beings and cares about world hunger. Really. You don’t care about Miley, she made her choice…just turn the channel…you SHOULD care. And I weep that you don’t. If you don’t weep..pray…and act, who will? Oh, that guy you’re criticizing.

    1. Scott says:

      Thank you, schelli
      I completely agree and weep with Mr. Wax over this issue, but also for the horrific example and the lack of Christian love I see in these posts.

      1. Ruth says:

        “The fear of the Lord is to hate evil.” – Proverbs 8:13

  23. Sarah says:

    As a parent, you should keep your mind on your daughter and not concentrate on what a young WOMAN does with herself or her body. She is an entertainer. She become famous for hannah, but she isn’t a little girl anymore. There isn’t any difference between a woman who goes to church and woman who throws her clothes off. They should both have the respect and they are both WOMAN. and should not be shamed to act however they want to act. You think because you are a man and you believe in “GOD” you can tell woman how they should act. Keep your morals for your daughter and wife. You should promote equality to your daughter and that she should not be slut shamed or shamed her for acting a certain way that makes her happy.

    Let her be an entertainer and go back to slut shaming your women.

    1. Scott says:

      Sarah, I don’t see anything that could be remotely considered “slut shaming” in Mr. Wax’s article. Why do you respond to one persons genuine concern for another with such anger? If you truly believe that no one should be “shamed to act however they want to act” then why are you attempting to shame this author for the way he wants to act? You boldly state “keep your morals for your daughter and wife.” Do you not know that this article is published on, and you are responding on, a Christian site?

      1. Montague says:

        I think what Sarah is trying to say is Miley’s behavior and the fact that she sexualizes her body does not harm anyone else so she deserves the freedom and respect to do so. Therefore, you shouldn’t criticize Miley or other women for that.

        I agree her behavior is a concern. However, not because of the behavior itself, but what lies behind her behavior. The reasons she acts the way she does is she seems to measure her self worth by the attention she receives. She doesn’t have a strong support system to tell her she doesn’t need to twerk on national television to feel valuable. That’s why is so much more important to focus on making the women in your life feel beautiful first, and then discuss with them about the choices they make ONLY if they are detrimental to themselves or others.

        That being said, I don’t think it’s inherently wrong or shameful to be sexual. Humans are sexual creatures. The point I’m trying to make is that your sexuality is something to be proud of, but it should not be a measure of your self-worth. That’s why women should be empowered by the CHOICE of doing what they will with their body, whether she decides to cover it up in a nice sweater or flaunt it like Ms. Perry.

  24. angela binner says:

    Beautiful!! Thank you

  25. angela binner says:

    I think the world needs more hope and grace and we shouldn’t cry about the 300,000 kids dying of starvation bc we are letting it happen. Our culture and society is out of line. We sell video games that involve killing people etc. We need to pray and we need a God to save our youth and take about our innocence

  26. Mark Z says:

    Really appreciate your thoughts and sensitivity in this article, Trevin. Thanks for putting this up.

    1. Hal says:

      Agree with Mark Z completely. Also, thanks, Trevin, for putting UP with THIS. I couldn’t do it.

  27. Barchetta says:

    God saves the lost. Is that fabulous or what?

  28. Cody Dolinsek says:

    I appreciate much from the Gospel Coalition, but this really feels like drivel to me. I share the concerns about where our culture is heading, but to write about Miley Cyrus in such a way as to create the illusion that this is somehow breaking news is historically laughable. Celebrities have been doing this sort of thing as long as we have had a celebrity culture. Cyrus is simply one more example of a long history of sexually charged behavior.

  29. rose nooteboom says:

    Miley was not doing anything Madonna wouldn’t do. She was having fun, being the powerful one in amongst all these big guys…..she was taking it back. She made me laugh.

    1. Montague says:

      There was something off putting though about her performance. She’s still very young, and it looked more like a cry for attention than a confident person playing around trying to upset people. I don’t blame her; it’s tough growing in the public spotlight.

      She like everyone else her age is just trying to find her way. She’s adopted this “ratchet” culture as a way to feel accepted and establish an identity while many people here chose religion instead.

      1. Ryan says:

        I’m not sure why everyone keeps talking about Miley doing it for attention or because she’s trying to find herself or whatever. It’s not as though she just bounded up on stage and said “Hey, I think I’ll express myself through this lewd dance!” Nearly everything she did would have been planned, tightly choreographed (likely by someone else) and well rehearsed long before the performance happened.

        Frankly, I’d be surprised if Miley was even involved in any of the decisions about how the performance would be. What we’re seeing is likely less the product of a public breakdown and more the result of a PR team deciding that over-the-top lewdness is the best way to get people talking about her again. Which, to their credit, it was.

        1. Montague says:

          Why can’t she say I think I’ll express myself through this lewd dance? You’ll find thousands of videos with young people twerking on the internet and I’m sure Miley though it was fun and adopted it. You can choreograph moves, but her expression and the way she carries herself is all her. The person you see on stage is her, or at least the person she wants to be. I’m not saying her team doesn’t influence her, but we can’t characterize her as their puppet either. She wants people to talk as much as her PR team does.

  30. Sandi says:

    I did not see the performance, but just from what I have read I am glad I didn’t. This article is spot on! Thank you for that!!!

  31. Travis says:

    Why can’t someone just write an article without readers turning it into their own platform to say what they think is important? Write your own blog, and put your incredibly “helpful” insights on there. Thank you for this article, Trevin.

  32. The Dude says:

    Prayer: the act of doing nothing and still making people believe you are doing something.

    1. paul says:

      well said.

    2. AJG says:

      Heck, pray-ers even convince themselves they’ve done something productive. The thing that annoys me most about prayer is that people give credit to a god instead of credit to the doctors and scientists who actually did the work.

      I have a friend who was unable to conceive for years despite constant prayer. Strangely enough her god didn’t “answer the prayer” until she started seeing doctors who specialize in treating infertility. Of course, once she did finally conceive god got all the glory and thanks because he was gracious to her. Funny how his grace only seems to work when science gets involved.

  33. How wonderful is this. This sure did touch my heart and is so wonderful to see
    To see another Christian take a stand.

    1. Some people dream of great achievements, some of them just want to shine no matter how.

  34. K Florida says:

    I think this is wonderful and thank you for sharing. Please consider turning off the comments. It unfortunately invited those with other agendas a place to vent. If they really feel that way they should start their own blog and stop commenting on everyone else’s they don’t agree with.

  35. And let us weep for the Church, of which Miley is a baptized member.

  36. The Sandman says:

    You should weep for the fact that you, like so many in our society, chose to focus on this utterly inconsequential event and the fabricated outrage it fomented while utterly ignoring the buildup of another illegal U.S. military attack against a middle east nation.

    That you’re perpetuating and contributing to a mentality of pop-culture worship that elevates the desperate antics of an adolescent attention whore to far greater importance than the arsenal of death being wielded around the world IN YOUR NAME.

    Take a long look in the mirror and ask yourself what you truly believe Jesus Christ would be more concerned with were he here on earth today.

    Wake up, people.

    1. Scott says:

      So now Christians should ignore individuals and only focus on world events? Must every blog deal with every issue? Come on, get over yourself.

  37. Norma Spence says:

    Compassionate and Spirit filled. I just reblogged

  38. Brian says:

    Call me old fashion, However it all starts with parenting, You continue to tuck her in at night, and keep empowering her with knowledge and love and chances are you will never be faced with this problem.

    Bill O Reilly may be blunt and mean but he tells it like it is. Most youth today who do crimes or acts like that did not have proper upbringing. Look at Miley, Her dad was to busy with his career to be a father and her mother … well never heard of or from her. Kids behavior is based on how they are raised.

    when you see a young man/ women who are successful, Polite they are the ones who had great parents who taught their children correctly, When you see a young women sticking her tongue out and grinding on poles, or young men killing someone cause they are bored those are the ones with poor parents making excuses on TV trying to convince us they are good kids they just don’t know any better. Well is that not you’re job as a parent to teach them?

    Just continue to tuck her in, Love her and always put your children above your needs and you have a high chance at haven well raised children.

  39. Josh Bunch says:

    Thanks for the article. Well written, to the point, challenging and inspiring. Thanks again.

  40. Concerned says:

    If we think that Miley was raunchy, trashy, and offensive but we don’t think her dance partner is raunchy, trashy, or offensive as he sings a song about “blurred” lines of consent and propagating rape culture, then we may want to reevaluate our acceptance of double standards about how men and women “should” and are “allowed” to behave.

  41. Jonathan says:

    71 comments and no-one has suggested that Robin Thicke might also share some responsibility for the performance??
    I weep for the culture that could see that and only blame the young woman, and not see the prowling men enabling / encouraging and exploiting her too, however willingly she embraces such attention.

    1. Concerned says:


  42. JazGalaxy says:

    I feel like people REALLY missed the point of what Miley Cyrus was doing in her performance.

    I’m not saying I like it or I agree with it, but people keep saying she was trying to be sexy to get attention. Was anything you saw her do sexy? She KNOWS how to be sexy to get attention. That’s what she’s been doing 2/3 of her life. That’s what she was doing on the Hannah Montanna show that everyone quotes as some benchmark of “when things were good and wholesome”.

    What Cyrus was doing, I’m convinced, was trying to ape the punk culture of the late 70’s and early 80’s. THe likes of vivianne westwood and johnny rotten. The hair, the clothes, the tongue hanging out… none of this is “sexy” and she knows it. What she was trying to do is be obscene. It’s the same thing punk rockers of the 70s were doing with safety pins through their noses, shaved heads, and holes in their clothes that exposed their private parts.

    Assuming that Miley Cyrus was trying to entice in her performance, and failing miserably rather, than the much more obvious answer that she was intentionally trying to gross people out is weirdly sexist.

    1. Anna says:

      Thank you! I’ve been waiting for someone to point this out.

  43. Michael Reaves says:

    While I appreciate the author’s concern, this article just seems to want to jump on the bandwagon and get some mileage out of the latest celebrity scandal/news with your readers. Nothing really has been added to the conversation. But, no doubt, it will play well with your core audience. I keep hearing the folks in Springfield in an episode of the Simpsons say, “What about the children?” A little too opportunistic and manipulative.

  44. For the Love of doG says:

    Are you “weeping and praying” for Robin Thicke, the man who was up on stage performing with her? If not, how come?

    1. Brianna says:

      Thank you I completely agree. It’s sexism and the idea that women aren’t allowed to feel confident without being shamed yet men can do whatever they want

      1. Ruth says:

        “confident without being shamed” ?? I hope and pray that Miley and Robin and everyone associated with this production feels nothing but horrible shame — that’s the beginning of repentance, and make no mistake, that’s exactly what’s needed here. Deep, sorrowful, I’m-so-sorry repentance. The ‘shamelessness’ being actually PROMOTED today is nothing more than whorishness and whore-mongering. And the consequences of that are moral degradation of the worst kind. The devil just brought the culture down several notches — and you want to equate that with women’s “confidence”? I am a woman and this is not confidence. Miley is so desperate for fame and attention, she’ll (apparently) do anything for its shock value. That’s not even in the ballpark of “confidence.” So when you speak about “women” — you’re not speaking FOR women — you’ve become a willing co-hort — part of the problem.

      2. Ruth says:

        …btw, before anyone else gets all up into the ‘she is woman hear her roar’ thing, Miley Cyrus doesn’t consider herself a “woman” at this point.

        In an interview published July 18, 2013 (it’s on YouTube), when the fawning interviewer asked her, “Do you feel like a woman?” Miley answered, “I feel like a straight dude…I’m not even a dude, I’m a man. That’s why my voice is like this.”

        You don’t have to take my word for it. If you can stand more footage, here’s the link to the interview:

  45. Dan McGhee says:

    Hi Trevin. You write the nicest articles. You are such a nice guy. And, you know, maybe its just me, but I’m just wondering if you have ever, well… know….. once-in-your-life felt the experienced the emotion of outrage? I’m sorry if that question is too mean…

    1. Trevin Wax says:

      Not sure how to take this question. Am I ever outraged? Yes. But I usually don’t find blogs to be an appropriate place for expressing outrage.

  46. Don't Cry For Me Argentina says:

    Maybe you should weep for the society that looks to celebrities as role models while you’re at it. They never asked to be put in that position and can’t be faulted when they fail to meet your expectations. They’re performers/entertainers working in a very corrupt industry. A child’s most important role models are her parents, teachers and other close adults anyway.

    Personally, I found Miley’s performance desperate and degrading, both to herself and the Black female performers she used as stage props. Meanwhile, Robin Thicke is fully clothed and singing his heart out, in total control of himself. The problem is that Miley Cyrus–daughter of Billy Ray Cyrus of “Achy Breaky Heart” fame–lacks the talent to put on a good performance. So she resorts to shock value, which isn’t exactly a new tactic. The truly sad part is that there are a thousand aspiring Mileys waiting to replace her in that role.

    Turn off the TV and get involved in your kids’ lives. Teach them the difference between good attention and bad attention. Stop making distinctions between boys and girls and treat your kids equally, instilling respect for others and self regardless of gender.

    1. Jay says:

      “Meanwhile, Robin Thicke is fully clothed and singing his heart out, in total control of himself.”

      Yes, he’s singing a song about degrading and exploiting women. Have you every actually listened to the wretched vulgarity of that “Blurred Lines” song of his? Who cares if he’s a great singer? He’s a pervert and should be condemned for his vulgarity as much as Miley Cyrus.

  47. Jacob Ramey says:

    I understand what You are trying to say Mr. Wax, but this article should have never been posted. If you wanted to speak out on a particular issue, you should have left specific names out.

  48. Scott says:

    I think one of the theological problems here is the objectification of the human being into a product for consumption.

    Product managers of intangible products – like a car or a piece of software – change the product, it’s packaging, it’s pricing, it’s marketing, and so forth, every few years or so.

    The Miley Cyrus product has just been re-launched. Or perhaps the Miley Cyrus v. 2.0 product has been launched. In either case, it’s a new launch of sorts.

    What makes it so insidious is that we’re talking about a person, a human being.

    That human beings are degraded in such a way by current American business models (both the product and the consumer are degraded), that Ms. Cyrus seeks a career of celebrity to participate in the degradation, and that a consumer culture provides a market for it; all provide an opportunity for gospel clarity and teaching concerning Christian anthropology and the biblical basis for human worth and dignity.

    It’s been said, perhaps by Tim Keller, I believe, that we have swapped an old notion; namely, that human beings are possessed of an inherent dignity and worth by virtue of their being created in the image and likeness of God, for another; namely, that dignity and worth is to be found in what one *does*. It is a shift in defining humanity – from what it means to be created in the image of God, to be defined as posessing dignity or worth according to function.

    Carry through the logic. At what point does one who is viewed as providing no worthwhile function become the subject of derision or become viewed as worthless?

    There is much more that could be said here.

    1. Cameron Sandel says:

      Almost positive, but most biblical divorce could only be initiated from the husband’s end. Need to do some more homework on that but pretty sure. (Deut 24)Grated the rabbinic teaching vary on this and there are some circumstances in which women could enlist the help of the rabbis to compel her husband towards an amiable divorce but again. need to do more homework.

      Don’t disagree with your assessment and conclusions, just speaking form the specific text your brought up.

  49. Jamal says:

    Just a small point: Although I completely agree with the vast majority of what you wrote, you concluded by speaking of the woman at the well, whom you describe as “a woman tossed aside by multiple men.” I don’t know what would lead you to believe that the men had necessarily cast her aside and not vice versa.

    In my pastoral ministry I have noticed that when someone is married multiple times, it is often that individual who has initiated the divorces.

    And if the modern United States has any bearing on the matter, statistics bear out the fact that the vast majority of divorces were ‘filed for’ by wives, not husbands. I know we’re all at least somewhat influenced by the feminist movement, but perhaps we need to think twice about our assumptions….

  50. abused says:

    Hold Robin Thicke accountable & MTV.

  51. Julie Borges says:

    I weep for Miley for she is only 20 and has been given this incredible life she has already started to destroy for herself, her family and all the little girls like my own granddaughter who is also 5 1/2 twirling around in a ballet outfit too. Very SAD. Ugh, wish TV here would be more respectful for all of us who tune in and what a vulgar act to see! News didn’t help with it over and over and over!!! Please keep vulgar off the air!

  52. cheryl laucks says:

    So well written…now I pray that the women who need to read it, do so. All women! God bless us all!

  53. Barbara Knight says:

    When I saw this on the news, I was astounded. I used to watch Hannah Montana with my granddaughters. I will pray for this misguided child and her family.

  54. Herb Valentine says:

    Churches, hospitals, pregnancy help centers, food pantries, Habitat for Humanity, missionaries around the world. .. yeah Christianity is doing nothing to better the world.

  55. Rick Vigeant says:

    I have a problem with people who want to blame Billy Ray and his wife. I can’t say its the parents fault. Billy Ray was her manager while she was Hannah. The world then came and whispered to her and promised her more than she had, and she took that apple and bite into it. She fired her own father and listened to the wrong people. I can only pray that as her career goes down the drain, she will respond to God calling her back, just like the prodigal child. The lessons she learns can help others.
    There have been many children of famous people that have gone the wayward trail and have found the way back. Franklin Graham was a rebel but God pulled out him out of that. God can pull Miley out also.

  56. speechless! Shared…thanks!
    nobody needs to add anything…I think that sometimes folks feel like that have to add due to their own personal egos…they are basically insecure in their own skin and can’t even give folks like
    Tev the credit due

  57. RK Sanger says:

    Well put and you articulately expressed precisely the dissonance welling up in my soul. Amen and amen.

  58. Dahloan Hembree says:

    Hold us, the ones who gobble up what the media feeds,responsible. We, along with our children and grand children, watch MTV, reality tv. etc. We thrive on the odd and the famous. Then we blame a young girl, who is thrown, mostly by her parents, but thrown into the limelight that we feed off us. Then we get upset when she ‘ goes to far’ and try to blame society, her parents, Robin Thicke? Blame ourselves! Quit buying CD’s with vulgar references to sex, quit sexting, quit glamourizing women who dress half naked. We as a society are to blame. Miley and others are merely giving Americans what they claim they want! If we are going to complain, let her and others know when when enough nudity is enough, when enough sex is enough. She is playing by a new ‘ sexy culture’ and needs to know what the rules are. Can’t blame her when she ‘ goes to far’.

  59. GM says:

    I’m on the other side of the world. And I say, “thank you” to Trevin for reminding us all Christian to weep and to allow this weeping to place us in the mode of prayer, and not of condemnation, because of the the availability of grace and God’s power to transform all of us. You lead us to see things as we see it. (I remember that miracle where Peter and John went to the temple…and that recorded note in Bible tells that that they began to see that man – whom they saw for many many years begging – in his situation but now with a spiritual eye, and in a delaration of prayer brought healing in our Lord’s name). But you also move us to pray – which I think is the thrust of this wonderful article. This is always be a necessity. Thank you.

  60. ljam says:

    I weep for a Church that has so little impact on the culture around it. May God have mercy on us for being so lukewarm in our faith that we have no influence on the world.

    1. Montague says:

      You can’t really change anything in the world anyways. It’s all God’s plan. Like climate change, he’s doing it not us.

      No, but honestly you can’t simply change the world by praying and telling people how much you love Jesus. Also, stop directing all your energy on these wars against sex, drugs, and video games. No one listens when you tell them they’re wrong. Try to relate to people and teach them. This means spreading basic principles like love, compassion, and equality. Approach people on a common ground; discover their point of view. Just because the bible is your answer, does not mean it is theirs. There are many ways to the same end.

  61. abby says:

    “I weep for women enslaved by a false view of sexual liberation.

    I weep for men (myself included) who have failed to say, “Enough is enough.””

    this is the most misogynist thing i’ve read all week on this subject. please tell me why women are ‘enslaved by sexual liberation’ while men are totally exempt? why is it men’s power to say what’s enough? sorry, but this whole miley situation is the biggest load of poop. she’s a beautiful, talented, young woman who is empowered to talk, dress, and how she pleases. if you don’t believe that women should have sexual liberation, go out and buy some floor length skirts and turtle necks but don’t complain and slut shame for the whole world to see. it’s disgusting.

  62. SR says:

    I weep for Christian parents who leave the day to day raising and correcting of their children to popular culture and outside influence. When we are fully convinced of a thing or concept, we automatically live it out and instinctively teach and admonish our loved ones accordingly. It is Christlike to pray for those whom we think need Christ in their lives. Christianity only makes sense in full obedience not just to believe in and defend.

  63. ella says:

    I can see the point in much of what you are saying, but it’s alsoo your maleness seeing things as if you and other fathers own their daughters, which is an archaic notion. True, Miley’s outfit choice doesn’t give a message young girls should be seeing. But it’s also just an outfit, chosen to perform in. Who says things about go go dancers, hula girls, etc? Women are not treated equally, as they should be, and when a woman is a free thinker, or expresses herself the way she wants to, she shouldn’t be criticized or hated. Men walk around in public without shirts on, they shouldn’t. But no one goes around weeping for their mothers.

  64. Darlene Bassett says:

    I pray for this world.What a Society we live in. We ignore Christ in our lives. Exploit children making them think they have to look and act in a way to be popular and instead we should be praising those that are role models. I pray for a ZGod fearing world praise him and all his glory. Amen!

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  66. Money says:

    If the world is growing darker, does that mean that the darkness is getting “darker”? Or rather, does it mean that the light is getting dimmer?

    14 “You are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hidden ; 15 nor does anyone light a lamp and put it under a basket, but on the lampstand, and it gives light to all who are in the house. 16 “Let your light shine before men in such a way that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.” – Matthew 5:14-16

    I weep that we as Christians care more about our self-righteousness than the truth of God.

    I weep that we as professed Christ followers look more at taking the speck out of our brother’s eye, and blatantly ignoring the plank in our own.

    I weep that we pray to God to change the world, but also tell Him, “Send anyone but me”.

    I weep that the explicit dancing of a little girl has sent Christians into a rampage, while the slaughter of thousands of children and prostitution of young girls around the world doesn’t mean squat.

    I weep that Christians point their finger at the foolishness of a lost person, and yet refuse to lift a finger to help those around them that are hurting.

    I weep because God weeps when He sees into the truth of our hearts…we who profess to be the children of God.

  67. td says:

    I weep for all the sexually repressed….

  68. Jak Charles says:

    Except men cannot say “enough is enough” without being called a misogynist and every feminist yelling at you for trying to prevent women from expressing themselves freely

    Men especially in the western world lost their voice 30-40 years ago when these debates were happening- its a too late now

    also what about the man??- why is no one criticising Robin Thicke??!!

    1. Ruth says:

      Agreed — he should have said, “No way. I’m a family man. This sends the wrong message.” Even though he didn’t reciprocate, he stood there and took it. There’s plenty of blame to go around but people put money and fame first — anything to get ‘talked about’. Pathetic! Miley needs an exorcist — that was disgusting.

    2. Jay says:

      The problem with this entire situation — including the author’s article — is that he calls on men to say “enough is enough,” yet he does not condemn the men — like Robin Thicke and countless others in the music industry — who objectify, degrade, and promote vulgarity in women through their lyrics and music videos. These perverted men have done a fine job of creating a culture where women feel “empowered” by stripping and dancing lewdly, actions that ultimately only serve men. It’s a horrible con, and instead of men saying “enough is enough,” men and women with a moral compass need to be holding these promoters of vulgarity accountable.

  69. Judy says:


  70. tracy says:

    In reading some of the posts I was quite shocked about the comments on the book The Davinci Code. That book is a work of fiction, it is not a factual book to base and alter life impacting decisisions by.

  71. Teg says:

    Pray for the lost. Spread God’s Word. Great article.

  72. Patti says:

    Didn’t you see it coming? I did. Is it really possible to be in the entertainment industry and be a Christian too? I don’t think so. The industry is the devil’s domain, and he will buy you, sell you, and tempt you beyond your ability to stand for Christ. The reason I am mentioning being a Christian is that the words I remember Miley Cyrus saying, in the beginning is, “I read my Bible everyday,” and she was proclaiming Christ. How many young girls that go into the industry “in Christ” are able to not be sucked into the darkness that pervades? I can’t think of one. Wasn’t Brittany Spears also a Christian at one time? Where were their parents who let them go into the darkness willingly? Did the money and fame they would get engulf them also? Can’t we say “no” to our young girls anymore? We are the parents. It’s o.k. for them to not like us, if what we are doing for them is to protect them. Yes, they may do it anyway, but don’t let it be with your permission or make it easy for them to fall. Take the God-given place and be parents. I’ve watched each step that Miley Cyrus took into the pit of darkness, knowing that she had lost her way with Christ. Our unwillingness to choose the path of life over the way of death is what causes us to be opened to the devil and his devices, and causes destruction to our soul, affecting not only ourselves, but those who we influence. Lord, have mercy, and He will, if she comes to herself and turns back to Him. And, if she does, she will have to lay it all down, to follow Him, as we all do. What good does it do, to win the world and lost our soul, as Jesus says? I think we can see that it does absolutely no good at all, but only brings destruction and heartache.

  73. R says:

    Thank you for that. I am inspired and saddened at the same time by your beautiful words. I too am a mom of a little girl. Grace is all we need.

  74. David Trist says:

    Another Christian weeping and praying for the brokenness of the world. How original.

  75. Mint says:

    “I weep for all the times I’ve looked at women as objects and failed to see them as someone’s sisters and daughters.”

    You couldn’t feel bad for failing to see women as people, instead of just as SOMEONE’s sisters and daughters? You couldn’t weep for failing to see a woman as someone, instead of seeing her in relation to someone else?

  76. David Trist says:

    “Weeping is no longer enough. Now, I pray.”

    What, you haven’t been praying this whole time!? Now I know why everything’s gone to hell!

    I have heard it said that prayer is a way of doing nothing while feeling like you’re doing something. That seems to be the case with a lot of Christians. We’ve been praying. The world still is what it is. Clearly we’re doing something wrong.

    By the way, moderating comments=Pathetic.

    1. Mike Stephan says:

      Actually, moderating comments would keep the meta on track.

      Not moderating comments=laziness.

    2. Mike Stephan says:

      Actually, moderating comments would keep the meta on track; which this meta clearly needs. The comments aren’t even tied to what Trevin wrote.

      Not moderating comments=laziness.

  77. sad says:

    I weep for people who watch TV. I weep for people who don’t have anything better to do than to watch the VMAs. I weep for people who actually give a crap about Miley Cyrus.
    But I am angry at parents for letting their kids watch this. I am angry at society who crams it down our throats. I can’t believe I have been forced to hear about all of this, and I don’t watch TV or listen to pop music, EVER. But I am still forced to know about this because I own a computer.

  78. Ed Ruppert says:

    Thanks Trevin. Me too.

  79. Robert Thompson says:

    Sean, if you think the youth of today is the same as the youth 50 years ago, you are mistaken. Yeah, there were still youth back then that did it, but no where near the extent that it is today, and it is due to the change in the culture. And he never said that they we are better than them, not once did he say that. And don’t try to say that all youth of today agree with that statement, because we don’t. Being 18, I am apart of that youth that you were supposedly trying to speak for, and I don’t appreciate it. But if you don’t think the culture has changed, then you are sadly mistaken.

  80. Lesley Johnson says:

    This was beautiful… pray also for all the people posting rude judgmental comments. They need grace just as much as Miley.

    1. Ruth says:

      We are required to “judge righteously”. (John 7:24) Haven’t you heard: “Woe to those who call evil good and good evil…” (Isaiah 5:20) It takes judgement and discernment to know the difference.

      We are to love God and hate evil. (Proverbs 8:13) And when we do, someone is bound to come up with the idea that we can’t judge at all. First we take out the beam out of our own eye, then we can see to take the beam out of another’s. But the beam must come out, and that takes good judgement.

      1. Jay says:

        The vast majority of the backlash against Miley Cyrus isn’t because people saw her performance as “evil,” Ruth. Most of the comments are from people saying she was ugly, or that she was a bad dancer, or that she can’t sing. Very few people are saying she was being too vulgar. After all, vulgarity is the norm on MTV.

        1. Ruth says:

          Jay, even if the “vast majority of the backlash against Miley Cyrus isn’t because people saw her performance as “evil” – I am not afraid, in this PC-obsessed America, to use the “E” word. What I saw Miley portraying was indeed evil.

          Yes, her face twisted into an ugly, even ghoulish expression. With her hair twisted into mock horns, her tongue hanging out — I can see she was portraying a “dog,” spiritually. (Real, actual dogs seem to have far more grace, intelligence, and innate kindness.) Her quote unquote dancing wasn’t meant to be ‘good’ anyway — it was meant to portray only one thing: total shameless wantonness, and she executed that accurately.

          Vulgarity may be “the norm” on MTV — but I don’t know where you are getting your stats as to “very few people” and the “vast majority” — some of the comments I read on other sites with the VMA performance used unambiguous terms like “skank”, “raunchy”, “lewd” — and interestingly, the most scornful remarks came from males. Not that Miley cares. She considers herself a male, and so I suppose she is expressing the the stereotypical “whore-dog” mindset.

  81. Lou says:

    Thank you Trevin for this great article. It is much appreciated.

    And to be fair, “American Idol”, so far, has not become guilty of the Miley Cirus/Britney Spears catastrophes. The majority of their singers have kept fairly wholesome (with the exception of Adam Lambert, who is the show’s biggest controversial figure). Just a little $.02 regarding that particular show.

  82. Laura H says:

    I find it discouraging that I knew nothing of what has happened with Miley neither does my family. Until I open up my fb and see this blog posted in so many Christian people’s pages and blog pages. This is glorifying and focusing on it too much. This is making it a big deal. Here is the thing we cannot escape the world and the sin that is in the world. This is nothing new! People have and always will be stuck in sin. Many many many women and young adults go through periods like this and no one talks forever about it. How many other young celebrities have gone through periods like this? Why do Christians feel the need to talk about this like it is so horrible? And gossip and keep talking about it!!! Instead go out and go to a bar tonight, and PRAY with someone who has no hope. Pass on your hope to your neighbor who is elderly and can’t mow the lawn. Pass on your hope to the lady with three screaming kids at the grocery store and offer help or a hug or a prayer. Don’t sit here and gossip and think on these things. It produces no good. Go out and LIVE the gospel with those you come into contact with. And for goodness sake all of us Christian parents need to take charge of what our children watch and are exposed to. Young kids shouldn’t be watching tons of tv and really shouldn’t follow ANY star (because even those claiming to be Christians will fail) Our role models need to be people of the faith who are living it out! Why are we not weeping for those in the persecuted church?? Why are we not doing instead of sitting here gossiping?? Huh I am frustrated with all of this obsession!!

    1. Ruth says:

      I think it would be a sin of omission for Christians to fail to respond to this spectacle, since it impacts so many homes.

      But doing so does not mean we are not active in other ways, many of which you mentioned.

      1. Laura H says:

        I view it as each parent is responsible for what goes into each home. “Garbage in garbage out.” I think by having blogs like this we then are fueling the media frenzy that occurs then encourages this more. Homes are blessed when they don’t own tv or know what has occurred. What benefit does this give? Keep in mind Philippians 4:8 “Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is noble, whatever is right, whatever is pure, whatever is lovely, whatever is admirable—if anything is excellent or praiseworthy—think about such things.” This tells us exactly that thinking and discussing things of this nature bring nothing good to us. We should not be focused on this event. It does nothing but make Christians seem as if all we can do is judge. We are not to be judging those outside of the body of Christ 1 Corinthians 5 tells us “I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people— 10 not at all meaning the people of this world who are immoral, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters. In that case you would have to leave this world. 11 But now I am writing to you that you must not associate with anyone who claims to be a brother or sister[c] but is sexually immoral or greedy, an idolater or slanderer, a drunkard or swindler. Do not even eat with such people.” This is what the world does. It hasn’t changed or gotten worse! Remember Sodom and Gomorrah? They were horrible sexualized cities. Sin hasn’t gotten worse, sin is sin. We as Christians and parents just need to keep the garbage out! When the garbage is out we can think on things that are holy and good. We need to keep talking of the good in the world, or the things we can change and do. And then we will see our small circle of influence changed and saved! If we talk of these things that celebrities do the world sees us as judging and non-accepting and closed minded. And they don’t want to be one of us then.

        1. Ruth says:

          Good points! But we can’t keep all of “the world” away….sooner or later, some of it seeps into our lives and the lives of our children. If we’re going to be ‘salt and light’ we need to address that world (which is also vying for the attention of our children).

    2. lauren says:

      Aren’t you feeding into this obsession by writing such a lengthy comment? Shouldn’t you be at a bar hanging out out with the hopeless?

      1. Laura H says:

        Lauren- Actually I did go to the street in our town that has many bars tonight. My husband and I play pool out there often so we can have conversations with people and pray. My dad stays home with teh kids when they are in bed. Since college students moved back this week. I had the honor to pray with four people tonight. One of them I gave a ride home because she was too drunk to drive. The other three needed prayers for different things. We do this at least every other week. We also gave a group at our church that goes out and lives the gospel. But in answer to your question yes I did go to a bar tonight and I did pray. When is the last time you stood up and acted on your beliefs? Your snippy comment makes me think you need to evaluate the way you look at the Great Commision and how it effects your personal life. Sometimes when we are snippy it is from conviction. I encourage you to read Acts. This book is full of practical examples of how to evangelize. The people met together regularly as a body of believers and then went out into the places sinners were at. There they prayed with great faith in Jesus name and saw miracles! This is such an awesome responsibility and honor we have to go out in Jesus name and see Him work wonders. Find some other believers and pray together, then go to where sinners are and ask if anyone needs prayer. Keep those eyes open because you want to see what God is doing. And then in faith pray and He will do cool things! Look for those opportunities as you go about your normal life activities, when you are grocery shopping and see a homeless man go and ask him if you can pray. I have no money to speak of to give to people, but I have Jesus to give to people. And then lastly in Acts we see that the apostles and early believers knew the scriptures well enough to give a summary and preach on the spot. I encourage you to read the word of God so often you have it handy so you can preach if need be on the spot to each individuals personal needs and speak life! It is exciting to get into the activities of God and not be a spectator! He has so much for us we just need to jump on in!

  83. Pamela Wright says:

    i thank you for your insight! Amazing commentary. I support you 100%

  84. Jay says:

    I wish this article had taken at least one sentence to condemn the men such as Robin Thicke (and many, many others) who objectify and degrade women. In my mind, they’re the ones who make women like Miley Cyrus (and all our sisters and daughters) feel as though their only value is in their sexuality. The vulgarity is on our heads as men. We cannot just blame the women for giving so many men what they have demanded. And trust me, it’s men who buy pornography. It’s men who crave and financially support these sexual images. It’s men who need to exhibit self-control. It’s men who should be outraged that a grown, married man (Thicke) groped and gyrated against a barely-clothed, barely-adult young woman while singing disgraceful lyrics. It’s an outrage, to me, that the media attention and the condemnation has been solely on Cyrus, while Thicke was equally, if not more, responsible.

    1. Ruth says:

      Could it be that we women are the gatekeepers to the family unit?

      I believe so. We decide what to allow into our lives, and into the lives of our children. If a woman has a solid foundation in God, i.e., is virtuous — she will make wise choices. If she has been foolish, God working in her life can change her and give her wisdom. When she has access to the source of wisdom, that is true empowerment.

      Where would the whoremongers go if there were no women to play the whore? (To other men, no doubt.) Because the devil will find pawns among the willing.

      I don’t see this problem as being that of gender or race or age. It is a moral problem — one either has a firm grasp of what morality is or one doesn’t. Miley Cyrus doesn’t realize it, but she is busy throwing herself headlong into hell.

      What happened to the Public Decency Laws in this country? That performance should have never aired in the first place.

  85. jim says:

    People lets start being Christ followers and follow his example.He would be weeping over these silly conversations . First of all if you want to get all legalistic about it and law full . It says if you broke one law you broke them all. I wonder how many may have did that in the last 10 min.Then it says love covers a multitude of sins. Keep that in mind always . Then last but not least,you without sin cast the first stone.This is Jesus Stuff.Now if you want to weep ,Pray ,fast for anybody that’s great .Just make sure it is birthed out off authentic love and then include in that prayer how you can be a blessing and a help to the one in need.God is very aware of sin that’s why he sent only Son for all of us.We didn’t deserve any of that but that is the only way Heaven for us could happen.

    God Bless To All

  86. Dr.IsacRufus says:

    When saw the incident and comment heart breaks but really pray and weep at the throne of grace for urgency of gospel of Jesus for transforming the world.”where sin abound much more Grace
    of Jesus christ” we need to stand in the gap with life saving Word
    od God which is the permanent solution for sin and renewed in mind to see women as Gods creation not an object to be used as tissue paper for toilet use. DrIsacRufus.Trainer.

  87. Observations says:

    May I posit an observation? Why does a post like this that is intending to stir us to reflect on the broken heart we should have about sin and as a result pray for an individual who is clearly broken, turn into a warzone of debate, endless arguments, and nitpicking? Why do we as the body of Christ seek to debate an issue like this until we’re blue in the face? Can I point something out? We are no different than the world if this is what we will decend to. Frankly, I’m weeping for Miley, but I’m also weeping about what this post has turned into. Can we just stop trying to vindicate ourselves and practice love? Because if we can’t, and Christ says that, “They (the world) will know you are my disciples by the way you love one another,” then how the heck is the world going to know that we’re any different? If we’re not any different, any more loving, any more encouraging, any more gracious, any more merciful than the world in our “Christian” circles, then let me ask this: WHY DOES CHRIST MATTER? What good does Christ do us? Is all our Christianity just a big whopping “Get Out of Jail Free” card, and nothing else? If that’s all it is, and it’s not about growing in love towards God and towards mankind, then let me ask two final questions: Why the heck would I ever want to be a Christian, and why the heck would anyone else want to be one either? With all the love I have for each and every one of you, I must ask you to check your pride at the door, and to check your hearts in the Throne Room. I love you all; I will be praying for Miley, I will be praying for the Industries, and I will be praying for you. That is all.

    1. Ruth says:

      I wouldn’t assume that people posting here don’t have a broken heart for sin and haven’t prayed to the Lord for Miley….fact is, no one can know the private thoughts of others nor how much their faith truly matters simply from their comments!

      All too often today, if one points out sin, people want to turn that around and accuse that person of hypocrisy or of not having a heart.

      A public figure is just that. Whether a President or a singer on the stage — their acts are there for the public to see, and yes, they will be judged. If their acts are meritorious, everyone is very glad, and thankful for them — if their acts are pernicious, they must experience the consequences of public censure. Being a Christian certainly doesn’t mean that we lose our ability to discern right from wrong (on the contrary!) nor that we must beat ourselves up for the wrongs of the world to be “credible Christians.” I would say that the reason the world is in the state it’s in is not from Christians pointing out sin but from their fear of doing so.

      Miley Cyrus is a twenty-year-old person in America. She has known privilege and wealth and opportunity which people in other countries have no sense of. She is being looked to by people all around the world. Does she bear no responsibility then for the choices she’s made, or is it all somehow the fault of her church? The “hypocrisy” button has been pressed for decades at the person or people who simply don’t want “sin” excused or applauded in the public sphere. If the responsibility to react (hopefully affecting her in the future) doesn’t belong to her own countrymen, then who better?

      I wonder how some would react to the prophets of old when they pointed out the sins of the people? To be able to say, “This is unacceptable behavior” or “deeply disturbing” is part of that process towards making a society more healthy. It’s truly sad that we have arrived at that point Paul wrote of when people cannot stand to hear sound doctrine. (2 Timothy 4:3)

      This singer needs rebuke — and that is one of the more loving things she can receive — it may cause her to turn around and be saved yet, and that is what I have been praying for myself.

  88. I did not see anything wrong with her dance at the awards-You people are just too old-fashioned about it. And a bunch of Christian fanitics. Get real!!!!!! I have seen alot worse out of hypocritic church-goers. That is why I do not go to church.

  89. Do you people live in the real world or what????How many of you are hypocrites? You made a BIG DEAL out of nothing. This is all publicity stuff- that guy Robin Thicke and her knew this dance was gonna happen. This was nothing-people see this all the time. I do not know why the world is surprised. If you do not want to see this- why did you watch it??

  90. Megan says:

    Having as a young woman been falsely accused–and disciplined–for trying to entice men based on the way I dressed, I know from experience that male religious leaders tend to project false motives on young women. I also know, from experience, that I’ve distrusted religious leaders ever since.

    What sin, specifically, did Miley commit? Dancing? Sensuality? Causing the viewer to feel lust in his heart? If so, why didn’t he grab the remote control and change the channel?

    1. Ruth says:

      Megan, I would hope your dressing did not compare in any way to Miley Cyrus’s clothing and suggestive movements. But if they were anything like hers, then you were not “falsely accused.” I’m guessing that your clothing might have been too revealing, but probably not anywhere on the scale as what was shown at the VMA’s recently.

      Megan, are you really wondering what “sin” specifically Miley committed? Can you really justify her vulgar striptease-style dancing (and also Robin Thicke’s lyrics) as somehow just “OK” for them both? Are children able to “grab the remote” and “change the channel”? Are we wrong to be at all appalled that music award shows have become X-rated?

      I’ve gathered from many different comments panned, and mostly by males, that “lust” was not actually one of the effects of her dancing — more like revulsion and sadness that a once-decent young woman degraded herself and exemplified such a low-level of morality.

      You ask “what sin”? Let me start by giving you the very definition of sin from the apostle John in 1 John 3:4: “Everyone who makes a practice of sinning also practices lawlessness; sin is lawlessness.” Fornication and adultery and lasciviousness and wanton sexuality are indeed sins. Ms. Cyrus has indicated in several of her videos that she finds nothing wrong with these behaviors. Also see James 1:24.

      Does someone become your enemy now if they tell you the truth?

      1. Ruth says:

        * typo: that should be James 1:21 *

    2. Robert Thompson says:

      1 Timothy 2:9-10 says this:
      “likewise also that women should adorn themselves in respectable apparel, with modesty and self-control, not with braided hair and gold or pearls or costly attire,”

  91. Ruth says:

    I believe I’ve posted well beyond my “fair share” and bid everyone farewell.

    I too have cried for Miley and felt compassion, and beseeched the Lord that she will repent and be saved.

    And I hope and pray that the Church will stand strong against what is sin and stand strong for what is right, even though the world will accuse us of its favorite term, “hypocrisy!” The world will never be pleased with the Church — we are at enmity — this is the same world that hated the prophets and truly hates the Lord. They want a Jesus who is a marshmallow, who will rubber-stamp all of their evil behaviors — not a sovereign Son of the Most High who hates evil and loves Good. They don’t know him.

  92. Kelly says:

    Thank you so much for this post.

  93. Trevin Wax says:

    I think this comment stream has run its course. I have posted some answers to recurring questions and criticisms here:

    Thanks, all.

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